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B4D4SS wrote:Gary wrote:@B4D4SS - I don't see anything changing a great deal. We've had one case made all season, that I can recall, against somebody using a macro. Sure, there are most likely players who use a macro already, but what can admins do about it if it goes unreported? The kick-limit helps and we're looking at a new combination at the moment.
It doesn't pay to cheat and this new ruling isn't an enabler. Ultimately the Team Captain risks a defloss (more about this below) or the game being replayed if their player uses a macro.
If the Team Captain decides to cut the player, effectively banning them for a leg anyway, then will another team risk signing them if it means they could potentially get deflosses for 1st/2nd leg games or even disbanded? - you don't have to answer this, but it's the thought process I had when trying to think of a new rule.
So players will ban themselves if they use a macro and it gets reported / reviewed. Admins can only do so much, but we need help too from Captains etc to ensure FP is followed. (in my view).
@Isco - Misfits decided it would be fair to replay the game. Initially the opposing Captain would have a choice of taking the defwin or replaying the game. I won't change the rule above now it's been decided, but I will edit it on the main rulebook thread to show both options.
It enables them because you are softening the rules, which already haven't worked great maybe cus you never made an example of anybody, but this was your perfect chance to scare people, but you did the opposite, not only not follow through with your rule but actually change it and make it much softer after finally catching somebody conclusively..
If this guy got perma-banned everybody else would be legitimately scared to use macro and risk being banned forever. Now you have the rules saying if we catch you, you get a warning, so for a cheaters mind why does it not make sense to use macro until you (maybe) get caught, and then at that point stop because only then are you risking ban time. Ive never used macro but Im only looking at this from a cheaters point of view, we all know Haxballers aren't the most moral people about, half the community are kids, so you have to assume the worst and work from there
socrates wrote:I think the reason why punishments are lighter is because they are intending to start penalising now with a lot less evidence and just with subjective opinions? If admins will still only penalise if there is a lot of evidence then I don't see the value of these changes either.
What about allowing macro but increasing kick limit at same time? This keeps it fair for everyone but hopefully reduces the impact that spam can have on the game still. (This would need to be tested as I don't know if kick limiter works well here or if there would be too many ghost kicks).
eleven wrote: you changed It because hakutter Is One of the most productive dms of the feedme.
Saky wrote:eleven wrote: you changed It because hakutter Is One of the most productive dms of the feedme.
wtf?
eleven wrote:You posted a rulebook for the season 27, so captains patiently ready It and they expect to send a team in a League which follows the WRITTEN rules.
8.1 a player caught using macro Will be permabanned from the League.
This was the rule for season 27 and this episode happened on this season but instead of applying the rule (as you have to do) you changed It because hakutter Is One of the most productive dms of the feedme. Why didn't you change the rules when you banned a full team for a fake lmao, because you don't care about normal players, on the next rulebook write the players Who are immune to rules
Lyreco wrote:So, EVERYONE, legit EVERYONE, knows for a fact that Owned aka Paranoia uses macro for years and he only gets a warning?? I respect you admins, but please man.. please. Just ban this guy, hakutter should of been banned too, what's the point in warnings when it's macro? If you use it the first time, it means you know what you were doing and you know you are breaking the rules, its not like 4def mistakes or something (even tho some people do it on purpose).
Lyreco wrote:So, EVERYONE, legit EVERYONE, knows for a fact that Owned aka Paranoia uses macro for years and he only gets a warning?? I respect you admins, but please man.. please. Just ban this guy, hakutter should of been banned too, what's the point in warnings when it's macro? If you use it the first time, it means you know what you were doing and you know you are breaking the rules, its not like 4def mistakes or something (even tho some people do it on purpose).
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