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P4ER wrote:This zPooky's case is pathetic, if they'll not ban him i think many more will start using it (i'll consider it myself since i burn my hands against those teams)..
let me ask a question, how many people got punished for macro (not warning that nobody cares about, I'm talking about bans).. NONE.
How can you solve this problem? make people fear using it, its not that hard to detect.
I dont understand why players like Ced and Tortogol got banned for less... whats the point of rules.
LaggerMet wrote:xd I knew somehow B4D4SS will find a way to poke at HTML haxball before reading his comment
B4D4SS wrote:LaggerMet wrote:xd I knew somehow B4D4SS will find a way to poke at HTML haxball before reading his comment
Yeah lol, but im not wrong, in FLASH good players didn't give AF about macro, only EdisonCavani. Now its become a big issue for everybody tho
huub wrote:Would be nice to see a little example of the difference between macro and a mechanical keyboard ( as in how it looks like, not the exact number inbetween the shots ), if anyone has that, and could make a little test ? Could run that detector tool to see the differences
As i do remember some people used to upgrade the keyboard, and also changed their style alot ( more controlled wallbounces, usually stronger in corners aswell ) Lets just say more robotic.
If anyone can make a little video of both examples, and maybe even a 3rd one without any but who just spams as fast as possible, we could compare.
Because i think they're gonna look quite similair ( mechanical and macro )
In fm there used to be a similar ( same ? ) tool to detect the timing in inbetween the tics, but for some reason it was not accurate enough to use as a '' macro detector ''
As for duels, quite sure that timing and positioning is way more important than some brainless spam.
For corners though, and probably also some other technique related stuff, i think it is an advantage on someone who needs to always humanly time their x.
I also don't understand how using macro can be even rewarding ? For some kids it might be fun to troll with it in fs'es once or twice, but on a general level, what is the point
SuarezN7 wrote:It's like at the Olympics. One part uses drugs and gets caught, another uses and doesn't get caught and rest don't use at all. You don't see athletes crying much about it right? That's just how it is. If admins start banning everyone spamming extremely fast macro or not say goodbye to half of the already shrinking community. And the haxball clients/anti-cheats won't work since it's so easy to slip a cheat undetected through certain layers. I will not mention how since only a small minority here would know what I mean and there's no point in bringing attention to this. All in all there will always be cheaters no matter in what, stop crying.
P4ER wrote:This zPooky's case is pathetic, if they'll not ban him i think many more will start using it (i'll consider it myself since i burn my hands against those teams)..
let me ask a question, how many people got punished for macro (not warning that nobody cares about, I'm talking about bans).. NONE.
How can you solve this problem? make people fear using it, its not that hard to detect.
I dont understand why players like Ced and Tortogol got banned for less... whats the point of rules.
Wenom wrote:Its amazing for me why you are talking about it just now. Because this problem since 2012. In the Russian community, 95% are absolutely clean players (yes 85% are bad players but its real stats), and here in Europe more than 60% are playing with this shit. And funny to know what russian community playing only BigEasy thats mean only x-spams and no more (as youre thinking about it).
For me, the most important advantage of a macro isnt spam battles, its tricks in the corners, due to which players can quickly do many things. Macro in spam battles are bad, but even worse - the tricks in the corners, this is an incredible advantage. I wont say who plays in the corners with a macro, but for me it is more of a trash than regular spam battles (when you talked about zPooKy).
LaggerMet wrote:huub wrote:Would be nice to see a little example of the difference between macro and a mechanical keyboard ( as in how it looks like, not the exact number inbetween the shots ), if anyone has that, and could make a little test ? Could run that detector tool to see the differences
As i do remember some people used to upgrade the keyboard, and also changed their style alot ( more controlled wallbounces, usually stronger in corners aswell ) Lets just say more robotic.
If anyone can make a little video of both examples, and maybe even a 3rd one without any but who just spams as fast as possible, we could compare.
Because i think they're gonna look quite similair ( mechanical and macro )
In fm there used to be a similar ( same ? ) tool to detect the timing in inbetween the tics, but for some reason it was not accurate enough to use as a '' macro detector ''
As for duels, quite sure that timing and positioning is way more important than some brainless spam.
For corners though, and probably also some other technique related stuff, i think it is an advantage on someone who needs to always humanly time their x.
I also don't understand how using macro can be even rewarding ? For some kids it might be fun to troll with it in fs'es once or twice, but on a general level, what is the point
Mechanical keyboard? In a mechanical keyboard you still need to press the X button normally... It doesn't change the fact that some players generate like 10 presses per a second which is definitely impossible for a human finger
if you wanna look at this yourself:
https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 7&t=16m17s
stop at 16:18, move to 0.25x and count the amount of presses until 16:19
if you think a human finger can do that with the right keyboard then i'll shut up
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