Day 12 - League - 17th October

[MrP]

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a) Result: Fulltime + (Haltime)
b) Replay File
c) Replay time of goals, goal scorers + assisters
d) extra Information such as protests or compliments

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[SuarezN7]

Match(5940): Slappers vs. Invincible
Result: 1-2 (0-2)

Slappers Lineup: vegeta (neymar10) - Pesic () - Schúrz () - gio ()
Invincible Lineup: Essien () - Mor1 () - Ferry () - SuarezN7 ()

Goals:

First half:
0-1 | 2:55 | Ferry (SuarezN7)
0-2 | 3:40 | OG - Pesic ()

Second half:
1-2 | 11:10 | gio (Schúrz) no assist


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 048b35512c

Checked Hannes

[GirlontaR]

Match(6011): The Chosen ONE vs. FATALITY!
Result: 4-0 (0-0)

The Chosen ONE Lineup: Melooo () - CHE (GirlontaR) - GirlontaR (CHE) - keetlock ()
FATALITY! Lineup: JHart () - aMp () - shakurREAL () - Runi ()

Goals:

First half:
No goals

Second half:
1-0 | 12:03 | OG - aMp ()
2-0 | 13:27 | keetlock ()
3-0 | 13:57 | keetlock (CHE)
4-0 | 15:51 | GirlontaR ()


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 728febf647

Goal times are replay times , gg wp meloo cs (edited cuz i forgot to put meloo cs , srry)

Checked Hannes

[wroz]

Match(5941): H2K vs. Trailer Park Penguins
Result: 0-4 (0-1)

H2K Lineup: Rizzoli () - Ziyech () - Ramsey () - tomza ()
Trailer Park Penguins Lineup: JC7s hayki () - wroz () - Necro1 () - KROL ()

Goals:

First half:
0-1 | 2:30 | KROL ()

Second half:
0-2 | 12:02 | Necro1 (KROL)
0-3 | 14:19 | KROL (Necro1) ***
0-4 | 14:35 | Necro1 (KROL) ***


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... b90fb900d7

gg

Checked Hannes

[Ter]

Match(6010): Rogue vs. WANTED
Result: 3-1 (0-0)

Rogue Lineup: Delusional (Browning) - Ter () - irvi () - FLACKO (Delusional)
WANTED Lineup: Madness (Nocke) - Maddude (Rosemaryy) - Nocke (Maddude) - dolphinunicorn ()

Goals:

First half:
No goals

Second half:
0-1 | 25:35 | OG - Browning ()
1-1 | 26:52 | irvi (Ter)
2-1 | 30:02 | irvi (Delusional) no assist
3-1 | 31:06 | Ter (Delusional)


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 08d2fc4bea

gg.

Checked Hannes

[Laki]

Match(5939): Pablo Haxobar vs. REEL GOATS
Result: 0-4 (0-1)

Pablo Haxobar Lineup: TotalPlayer () - iкs () - Hannes () - Muris 9 ()
REEL GOATS Lineup: Norb () - Fritz () - shaxlele () - Laki ()

Goals:

First half:
0-1 | 2:20 | OG - Hannes ()

Second half:
0-2 | 10:53 | shaxlele (Laki)
0-3 | 11:40 | shaxlele (Laki)
0-4 | 13:21 | shaxlele (Laki)


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 2d10c4f6e1

Norb cs

Checked Buxton

[Teddie]

Match(6006): Rneax Pleas vs. The Revolution
Result: 8-2 (3-0)

Rneax Pleas Lineup: Teddie () - Müllérsh () - Jéovic () - Rof ()
The Revolution Lineup: Asus5 (Flaviu) - apex1 () - orenball () - Ferg ()

Goals:

First half:
1-0 | 9:14 | Jéovic (Müllérsh)
2-0 | 9:38 | Rof (Jéovic)
3-0 | 10:42 | Rof (-)

Second half:
3-1 | 12:56 | Ferg (orenball)
4-1 | 13:50 | Jéovic (Rof)
5-1 | 15:47 | Müllérsh ()
6-1 | 16:15 | Müllérsh (Jéovic)
7-1 | 17:07 | Müllérsh (Rof)
7-2 | 17:25 | apex1 (Ferg)
8-2 | 20:03 | OG - Flaviu ()


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 63177abecd

Checked Buxton

[Edge]

Match(6009): Savage Hax vs. Fourth Echelon
Result: 0-4 (0-2)

Savage Hax Lineup: Evil Morty () - huub () - Afro-jack (mane) - Lee (Hawk)
Fourth Echelon Lineup: Sodasson () - Baffo () - L4W () - Skinny ()

Goals:

First half:
0-1 | 4:15 | L4W (Skinny)
0-2 | 6:35 | L4W (Skinny)

Second half:
0-3 | 16:20 | L4W ()
0-4 | 16:38 | Skinny (L4W)


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 8260589e94

sodasson cs
gg

Checked Buxton

[Azure]

Match(5937): Excellents vs. Beginner
Result: 1-0 (0-0)

Excellents Lineup: S p i r i t () - Azure () - piowek () - sensi ()
Beginner Lineup: Maze () - Anddy () - Tsubasa () - benja (Hassan)

Goals:

First half:
No goals

Second half:
1-0 | 11:28 | sensi (piowek)


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... cde9b92091

spirit cs
gg

Checked irvi

[LaggerMet]

Match(5938): Guns N’ Moses vs. CLOWN FIESTA
Result: 3-0 (0-0)

defwin to GNM, its deadline matchday and only I offered dates to play, only their captain is online on TS and he isn't answering.

edit:
they remembered in 21:45 cet after no communications no anything that they want to play RIGHT NOW, so fine we accepted but then they refused to join our host:
https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... cf283f681b

[MARBLE7]

Match(5942): Ice Hawks vs. Stiff Wind
Result: 1-0 (1-0)

Ice Hawks Lineup: Vichoexe () - Misaj () - MARBLE7 () - Vak ()
Stiff Wind Lineup: PiperSalvia () - Gilbert () - ROCKYBALBOA () - Kyrai ()

Goals:

First half:
1-0 | 2:50 | Vak (Misaj) ***

Second half:
No goals


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 4e5b0b62f3

Vichoexe CS
gg

Checked irvi

[Ron]

Match(6008): HAI vs. Tiger Haxball Club
Result: 4-1 (1-1)

HAI Lineup: mads () - Ron () - M4rioGoL () - NesTro ()
Tiger Haxball Club Lineup: TemplleGoku () - Nub () - MessIO () - Smithyo ()

Goals:

First half:
0-1 | 5:30 | Smithyo (Nub)
1-1 | 6:24 | M4rioGoL ()

Second half:
2-1 | 13:37 | NesTro ()
3-1 | 14:05 | NesTro ()
4-1 | 15:27 | M4rioGoL ()


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... d290151c44

gg guys
hope report is ok...

Checked Hannes

next time don't forget to add kicklimit after rec start

[Gary]

Match(6007): EYP Haxball vs. Ajhax
Result: 0-3 (0-2)

EYP Haxball Lineup: Lillega () - San Diego () - 4Justice () - Ender ()
Ajhax Lineup: TiggerFlex () - Gary () - Witsel () - egoista10 ()

Goals:

First half:
0-1 | 9:16 | Witsel (Gary)
0-2 | 10:10 | egoista10 (Witsel) ***

Second half:
0-3 | 20:43 | egoista10 (Witsel)


Notes:

Full game replay: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... a002de72cd

Admins:- The first goal we aren't 100% sure that it should have been FP, so we have included the goal and will leave the decision for you.

TiggerFlex cs

gg EYP

fairplay is up to the teams

Checked Hannes

[Splat]

Match(5938): Guns N’ Moses vs. CLOWN FIESTA
Result: 3-0 (0-0)

defwin to GNM, its deadline matchday and only I offered dates to play, only their captain is online on TS and he isn't answering.

edit:
they remembered in 21:45 cet after no communications no anything that they want to play RIGHT NOW, so fine we accepted but then they refused to join our host:
https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... cf283f681b

We agreed to play before 22.30 I was told by Whitee you would be there in 10-15min at 22.10. You already had that cup game and 6-7 players online at 21 so I suggested that we will play BEFORE 22.30 giving you sometime to eat/take a break whatever after you cup game also taking into account you could play some extra-time I don't think that it was too unreasonable of a time period to suggest for us to play. You had like a 1 hour window to play us in which you decided to come into the room at 22.45 by that time one of our players left and we weren't 4 so even if we ignored the fact that you made us wait so long we could not possibly play.

- "I offered dates to play,"

You can see from the thread that we both have suggested one time equally not one team has done more than the other to arrange this game outside of the FINAL matchday.

- "only their captain is online on TS and he isn't answering."

I think it was obvious to you from past interactions that we have had and when you received no reply that I had you blocked so I don't know why you continue to act like it was surprising you could have easily contacted someone else in the channel/team that doesn't have you blocked. You are trying to find an excuse because you didn't want to play us I suspect. I have been a captain in this league for many seasons and never had a problem like this in rearranging wildcard games while having more than half of the teamspeak users blocked .

I propose 3 possible solutions:

1. We receive a defwin - we waited over 40minutes for nothing on the FINAL matchday.
2. We both get a defloss - we both could of handled this better by communicating better on the forum but if you take into account in particular the FINAL matchday which is the most important; we were undoubtedly the only team that wanted to get the game played.
3. Admins grant us an extension to play the game - I don't think either of our teams wants this situation where one team receives a defwin/defloss against any team. If admins will allow it I suggest maybe that we could extend the deadline to the next matchday? Although this is doubtful as the rules are rules and have been for some time.

Hope admins can reach a reasonable solution

[LaggerMet]

Match(5938): Guns N’ Moses vs. CLOWN FIESTA
Result: 3-0 (0-0)

defwin to GNM, its deadline matchday and only I offered dates to play, only their captain is online on TS and he isn't answering.

edit:
they remembered in 21:45 cet after no communications no anything that they want to play RIGHT NOW, so fine we accepted but then they refused to join our host:
https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... cf283f681b

We agreed to play before 22.30 I was told by Whitee you would be there in 10-15min at 22.10. You already had that cup game and 6-7 players online at 21 so I suggested that we will play BEFORE 22.30 giving you sometime to eat/take a break whatever after you cup game also taking into account you could play some extra-time I don't think that it was too unreasonable of a time period to suggest for us to play. You had like a 1 hour window to play us in which you decided to come into the room at 22.45 by that time one of our players left and we weren't 4 so even if we ignored the fact that you made us wait so long we could not possibly play.

- "I offered dates to play,"

You can see from the thread that we both have suggested one time equally not one team has done more than the other to arrange this game outside of the FINAL matchday.

- "only their captain is online on TS and he isn't answering."

I think it was obvious to you from past interactions that we have had and when you received no reply that I had you blocked so I don't know why you continue to act like it was surprising you could have easily contacted someone else in the channel/team that doesn't have you blocked. You are trying to find an excuse because you didn't want to play us I suspect. I have been a captain in this league for many seasons and never had a problem like this in rearranging wildcard games while having more than half of the teamspeak users blocked .

I propose 3 possible solutions:

1. We receive a defwin - we waited over 40minutes for nothing on the FINAL matchday.
2. We both get a defloss - we both could of handled this better by communicating better on the forum but if you take into account in particular the FINAL matchday which is the most important; we were undoubtedly the only team that wanted to get the game played.
3. Admins grant us an extension to play the game - I don't think either of our teams wants this situation where one team receives a defwin/defloss against any team. If admins will allow it I suggest maybe that we could extend the deadline to the next matchday? Although this is doubtful as the rules are rules and have been for some time.

Hope admins can reach a reasonable solution

* Your conversation with Whitee is irrelevant, you should talk to me not to him when deciding when to play. I sure hell didn't agree on a specific time, you can ask him yourself.

Everything you say is kind of irrelevant considering that you weren't here until very late in the evening when most of my players already logged off because they just can't be online for the entire 24 hours of the deadline day just so you can choose a random 40 min period to log in to, demand to play and then leave exactly when we come. This is more than obvious tactic to get us a defloss. What you are saying is that if you want someone to lose, you simply can wildcard your game against them, avoid communicating with them on both forum and TS (which you did, I offered a date to play in a reasonable time, you offered a date to play very very late in an unreasonable time) wait for them to log off in the deadline day (which is bound to happen because we can't just sit 24 hours and wait for guys who will maybe show up and maybe not) declare you want to play in that time, and when the guys successfully show up (against odds I must say, I can argue that we deserved a defwin even if we didnt show up) you just leave. EZ way to screw a team, isn't it?
And no, I 100% didn't realize I was blocked, call me stupid for that if you wish. Anyway even if I'm blocked of course it is not an excuse, if you block a captain of a team you have to play against, its your responsibility to find a different way to communicate with that captain.

I purpose the only reasonable solution, defwin to GNM, and punishing (at least a warning) CF for playing dirty tactics. Our team is made of busy people, we aren't professional haxballers, we really can't deal with such bullshit every time it happens.

[Whitee]

i didn't say any specific time to you splat, i tried to make both teams play to avoid defwin/defloss situation since it was last day to play, lagger told me that they are not 4 when i asked them to play but then lozano joined ts and lozano said that he can play in 15 min, so i told splat that "maybe" gnm can play in 15 min if everyone is here from them, gnm had 4 players available at 22.40 cet and wanted to play but splat didn't want to play because gnm rejected splat's host.

[Splat]

I guess if the game had more than 100 players Whitee would not come close to being an admin but due to the circumstances he is. I take the word of an admin for fact when he is communicating with both teams but this is wrong as an admin should not be responsible for their actions?

- Everything you say is kind of irrelevant considering that you weren't here until very late in the evening

"very late in the evening" = 21.40 when you had a game at 21 and you had 6-7 players on teamspeak.. You failed to suggest us a specific time which is why I opted for that approach.

- "you can choose a random 40 min period to log in to, demand to play and then leave exactly when we come"

There was no "random time" we gave you a 50minute window as a substitute for not being given any time from your team. This is extremely reasonable from us as you had never suggested a time to us yet we still decided to give you a flexible time period to play in which we waited all throughout and this was clearly communicated to you on the forum.

- "(which you did, I offered a date to play in a reasonable time, you offered a date to play very very late in an unreasonable time)"

The date you offered was the 31st of October (The last matchday) so you don't really earn much plaudits for that and no time was even offered so I don't know how that qualifies as a "date to play in a reasonable time" as you have described. I think it obvious to anyone that a 50minute window after you had just played a match and all your players are online is undoubtedly much more reasonable than just offering a day with no times... It's obvious English isn't your first language so maybe you should sign a translator

- "wait for them to log off in the deadline day (which is bound to happen because we can't just sit 24 hours and wait for guys who will maybe show up and maybe not)"

Nobody had logged off from when I posted on the wildcard thread this can be checked I'm sure on the teamspeak logs if necessary.

- "I purpose the only reasonable solution, defwin to GNM, and punishing (at least a warning) CF for playing dirty tactics. Our team is made of busy people, we aren't professional haxballers, we really can't deal with such bullshit every time it happens."

As we can see here he has resulted to using an ad hominem when he realises the lack of an actual argument he has. Your team is indisputably more active on this game than ours but this is not the matter we are discussing . Thankfully you are not an admin as you favour making decisions without any logical thought process.

Now onto Whitee

-i didn't say any specific time to you splat, i tried to make both teams play to avoid defwin/defloss situation since it was last day to play, lagger told me that they are not 4 when i asked them to play but then lozano joined ts and lozano said that he can play in 15 min, so i told splat that "maybe" gnm can play in 15 min if everyone is here from them, gnm had 4 players available at 22.40 cet and wanted to play but splat didn't want to play because gnm rejected splat's host.

Only quality that this guy has as an admin is that he is online 24/7. I must say I have to respect his time commitment as without it the league wouldn't run as smoothly as it does. Without a doubt however if the game was still small with maybe 700-800 active players? he would never be an admin. He is unable to do anything objectively, he has always operated with a bias to whoever treats him better; as an admin being objective and doing what is the right and fair over everything else should be the most important but as he has demonstrated time and time again that he is incapable of this but this is the result when the prospective pool of admins is so small I guess so hard to complain as he does try his best it is not his fault he is just unable.

- i didn't say any specific time to you splat, i tried to make both teams play to avoid defwin/defloss situation since it was last day to play, lagger told me that they are not 4 when i asked them to play but then lozano joined ts and lozano said that he can play in 15 min, so i told splat that "maybe" gnm can play in 15 min if everyone is here from them,

If this is the case that you said "maybe" could we have a screenshot of that chat? You copy pasted me a message saying 10-15 minutes that was all which we were content to wait for as it was in the aforementioned time period.

- gnm had 4 players available at 22.40 cet and wanted to play but splat didn't want to play because gnm rejected splat's host.

Both pieces of information provided here are false. They joined our room at 22.43 when we had just 3 players as one had just left.. so it was now impossible for us to play then, it was nothing to do with the host. I understand that he could leave as we were waiting 50minutes for a team that didn't want to play and wanted to try and get a defwin. Imagine giving a 50minute time frame to then come 15minutes late and then complain about my team

Hope we can come to a reasonable resolution, we would prefer to just play the game if at all possible. I can't blame Whitee as he is just doing the best with what he has

[lsco]

I guess if the game had more than 100 players Whitee would not come close to being an admin but due to the circumstances he is. I take the word of an admin for fact when he is communicating with both teams but this is wrong as an admin should not be responsible for their actions?

- Everything you say is kind of irrelevant considering that you weren't here until very late in the evening

"very late in the evening" = 21.40 when you had a game at 21 and you had 6-7 players on teamspeak.. You failed to suggest us a specific time which is why I opted for that approach.

- "you can choose a random 40 min period to log in to, demand to play and then leave exactly when we come"

There was no "random time" we gave you a 50minute window as a substitute for not being given any time from your team. This is extremely reasonable from us as you had never suggested a time to us yet we still decided to give you a flexible time period to play in which we waited all throughout and this was clearly communicated to you on the forum.

- "(which you did, I offered a date to play in a reasonable time, you offered a date to play very very late in an unreasonable time)"

The date you offered was the 31st of October (The last matchday) so you don't really earn much plaudits for that and no time was even offered so I don't know how that qualifies as a "date to play in a reasonable time" as you have described. I think it obvious to anyone that a 50minute window after you had just played a match and all your players are online is undoubtedly much more reasonable than just offering a day with no times... It's obvious English isn't your first language so maybe you should sign a translator

- "wait for them to log off in the deadline day (which is bound to happen because we can't just sit 24 hours and wait for guys who will maybe show up and maybe not)"

Nobody had logged off from when I posted on the wildcard thread this can be checked I'm sure on the teamspeak logs if necessary.

- "I purpose the only reasonable solution, defwin to GNM, and punishing (at least a warning) CF for playing dirty tactics. Our team is made of busy people, we aren't professional haxballers, we really can't deal with such bullshit every time it happens."

As we can see here he has resulted to using an ad hominem when he realises the lack of an actual argument he has. Your team is indisputably more active on this game than ours but this is not the matter we are discussing . Thankfully you are not an admin as you favour making decisions without any logical thought process.

Now onto Whitee

-i didn't say any specific time to you splat, i tried to make both teams play to avoid defwin/defloss situation since it was last day to play, lagger told me that they are not 4 when i asked them to play but then lozano joined ts and lozano said that he can play in 15 min, so i told splat that "maybe" gnm can play in 15 min if everyone is here from them, gnm had 4 players available at 22.40 cet and wanted to play but splat didn't want to play because gnm rejected splat's host.

Only quality that this guy has as an admin is that he is online 24/7. I must say I have to respect his time commitment as without it the league wouldn't run as smoothly as it does. Without a doubt however if the game was still small with maybe 700-800 active players? he would never be an admin. He is unable to do anything objectively, he has always operated with a bias to whoever treats him better; as an admin being objective and doing what is the right and fair over everything else should be the most important but as he has demonstrated time and time again that he is incapable of this but this is the result when the prospective pool of admins is so small I guess so hard to complain as he does try his best it is not his fault he is just unable.

- i didn't say any specific time to you splat, i tried to make both teams play to avoid defwin/defloss situation since it was last day to play, lagger told me that they are not 4 when i asked them to play but then lozano joined ts and lozano said that he can play in 15 min, so i told splat that "maybe" gnm can play in 15 min if everyone is here from them,

If this is the case that you said "maybe" could we have a screenshot of that chat? You copy pasted me a message saying 10-15 minutes that was all which we were content to wait for as it was in the aforementioned time period.

- gnm had 4 players available at 22.40 cet and wanted to play but splat didn't want to play because gnm rejected splat's host.

Both pieces of information provided here are false. They joined our room at 22.43 when we had just 3 players as one had just left.. so it was now impossible for us to play then, it was nothing to do with the host. I understand that he could leave as we were waiting 50minutes for a team that didn't want to play and wanted to try and get a defwin. Imagine giving a 50minute time frame to then come 15minutes late and then complain about my team

Hope we can come to a reasonable resolution, we would prefer to just play the game if at all possible. I can't blame Whitee as he is just doing the best with what he has

We didn't have that cup game it was postponed
Everyone went offline when we saw you aren't answering.
I'm sorry for you that you woke up 1 hour before the deadline but is it so hard to unblock someone on TS?
Seriously I'm too old for this BS