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Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 7th, 2019, 11:50 pm
by STriker
Muris 9 wrote:
Lozano wrote:We don't have to defend when the strikers that you're playing against have the creativity of a piece of wood ^^


That appears not to be the case since you camped every head to head match for the top places ^-^ cheers for Lozano, he won div2 tho


Old memories

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 7th, 2019, 11:52 pm
by CHAMPION
I think the admin team have taken the right decision again :cheers:

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 12:19 am
by Browning
i think good decision but not sure only about EYP Haxball.

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 4:02 am
by Lee
dolphinunicorn wrote:Do we want FM to turn into shit or something? This is the best the admins could of done cus u gotta realise that we are at the point where some div1 teams are getting beat up every game with high score (also stats boosting) this shouldnt happen in div1


Not really. But i think the issue fm has atm is teams that are disbanding once results don't go their way in the middle of the season, and that shouldn't be happening in fm at all. Wouldn't be surprised if it is SW who hasn't shown an active interest in the league so far. I would rather have accepted THC who have proven they at least care and are invested in FM. But i guess if the skill level is high then ey fuck it :popcorn:

Also big ups to EYP being accepted. Deserved :thumbup:

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 5:39 am
by El Drago
Lozano wrote:Admins of this league do amazing job but when it comes to take decisions, every kind of decision, damn they are just so trash at it.

They accepted 50% rager teams , if they want 5-6 disbands this ssn AMAZING CHOICES XD . If they want to happen again like in the previous ssn , nice teams that u accepted (+Fear Div1, XDDDDDDDDDDDDD)

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 7:16 am
by sw1zy
Pray for THC :(

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 7:17 am
by ATuntija
L Drago wrote:
Lozano wrote:Admins of this league do amazing job but when it comes to take decisions, every kind of decision, damn they are just so trash at it.

They accepted 50% rager teams , if they want 5-6 disbands this ssn AMAZING CHOICES XD . If they want to happen again like in the previous ssn , nice teams that u accepted (+Fear Div1, XDDDDDDDDDDDDD)

I tried to explain this FEAR case to you like 10 times yesterday but you still not seem to understand why it happened. Same with Pablo.

If you still want to try to understand it, please go and read rules chapter 2.8. (which I linked you also yesterday).
But if not, I'll rest my case.

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 7:52 am
by Laki
This is the most immature shit that i’ve seen on haxball for a long time. Just grow up.

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 8:24 am
by Allen
dolphinunicorn wrote:
Lozano wrote:Admins of this league do amazing job but when it comes to take decisions, every kind of decision, damn they are just so trash at it.


Dunno what you're saying but they accepted the right teams. Yes THC are more active than the teams but please, div2 level has been low for so long... This time its a way better level than it has been in the past seasons.


it is div 2 after all... i feel like div2 is more about giving chances for teams to get to div1 atm

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 8:45 am
by socrates
The team choices were not the ones I'd have chosen but surprise I will defend the admins here as usual.

- A teams ability/level is not a main consideration for teams being accepted in FM and never has been. Those suggesting the decisions were based on that are wrong.
- There is no "fairness" criteria either. If a team is the most active fsing, have applied many times or helped with FM jobs in the past that also doesn't guarantee they would be accepted if there are other concerns surrounding the team.
- There is always a subjective opinion from admins on who is the most likely to be friendly, stable and reliable in the future. There is no way of knowing for sure who this could be so ofc some gut feeling is involved and each of the admins didn't agree completely (they each would probably chose some different teams alone but they have to compromise on decisions).
- No matter what FM admins do they get called shit which is really unfair in my opinion. They hate this decision every season as they can't win no matter what they decide. They don't want a monopoly of haxball, if people are constantly complaining about them then please make your own league. Haxball certainly needs more leagues and it's harsh on admins to have to reject so many teams all the time with nowhere else to play.

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 8:57 am
by Lozano
Completely agreed with @Lee

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 9:39 am
by lsco
socrates wrote:The team choices were not the ones I'd have chosen but surprise I will defend the admins here as usual.

- A teams ability/level is not a main consideration for teams being accepted in FM and never has been. Those suggesting the decisions were based on that are wrong.
- There is no "fairness" criteria either. If a team is the most active fsing, have applied many times or helped with FM jobs in the past that also doesn't guarantee they would be accepted if there are other concerns surrounding the team.
- There is always a subjective opinion from admins on who is the most likely to be friendly, stable and reliable in the future. There is no way of knowing for sure who this could be so ofc some gut feeling is involved and each of the admins didn't agree completely (they each would probably chose some different teams alone but they have to compromise on decisions).
- No matter what FM admins do they get called shit which is really unfair in my opinion. They hate this decision every season as they can't win no matter what they decide. They don't want a monopoly of haxball, if people are constantly complaining about them then please make your own league. Haxball certainly needs more leagues and it's harsh on admins to have to reject so many teams all the time with nowhere else to play.


+8

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 9:42 am
by aMp
L Drago wrote:
Lozano wrote:Admins of this league do amazing job but when it comes to take decisions, every kind of decision, damn they are just so trash at it.

They accepted 50% rager teams , if they want 5-6 disbands this ssn AMAZING CHOICES XD . If they want to happen again like in the previous ssn , nice teams that u accepted (+Fear Div1, XDDDDDDDDDDDDD)


Better then crying here and stuff you go to learn play better with your team and to respect admin decision .
If you will write here nothing will change only in worst.
And cmon why you care about other teams srs...
If you think better You started from fear so you have to respect us cuz we respect you aswell

Try to respect admis no matters what decizion they will take and better then writig here shit and get you better go to learn a (NO)

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 9:52 am
by tSharky
socrates wrote:The team choices were not the ones I'd have chosen but surprise I will defend the admins here as usual.

- A teams ability/level is not a main consideration for teams being accepted in FM and never has been. Those suggesting the decisions were based on that are wrong.
- There is no "fairness" criteria either. If a team is the most active fsing, have applied many times or helped with FM jobs in the past that also doesn't guarantee they would be accepted if there are other concerns surrounding the team.
- There is always a subjective opinion from admins on who is the most likely to be friendly, stable and reliable in the future. There is no way of knowing for sure who this could be so ofc some gut feeling is involved and each of the admins didn't agree completely (they each would probably chose some different teams alone but they have to compromise on decisions).
- No matter what FM admins do they get called shit which is really unfair in my opinion. They hate this decision every season as they can't win no matter what they decide. They don't want a monopoly of haxball, if people are constantly complaining about them then please make your own league. Haxball certainly needs more leagues and it's harsh on admins to have to reject so many teams all the time with nowhere else to play.


I still don't agree because I don't see a real reason for my rejection. It was our 4th apply and our 2nd apply in a row. 4 tries and 4 times rejected. It's a bit ungrateful for us cuz we all spent months always on ts3 and we've shown ourselves able to replace teams on league and we never got into problems. I got a bit sad with this decision because of my players and because of people like jappo. Jappo never joined a team on applications because they're never sure to join, now he doesn't have a team and my other players don't have a team. Since they don't have names on FeedMe like most of the accepted teams have, they weren't accepted and they won't get a team because they're unknown and I know how It works.
I'm not replying to this thread anymore (probably). The only thing that an admin could tell me was a sorry cuz they can't accept everyone and I only asked for a reason for being rejected for the 4th time... I literally never seen that and I got quite mad and sad.

Greetings.

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 10:18 am
by socrates
TemplleGoku wrote:The only thing that an admin could tell me was a sorry cuz they can't accept everyone and I only asked for a reason for being rejected for the 4th time... I literally never seen that and I got quite mad and sad.


Well admins usually refrain from giving reasons since it usually makes things worse but I'm no admin so.... I wasn't involved so I don't know the admins reasons but here are some things I can possibly think of:

- There was controversy surrounding you in Portuguese league (I don't know full story and maybe its completely wrong and you are innocent but there was some problems that I heard).
- In past cups I have heard complaints about you from other teams (and you complaining about other teams), I guess this is also carried on from other leagues but I don't think this is something that FM likes to see.
- I have heard complaints about you raging even from old FM teammates. Not my business but captains who rage generally is not a good fit in FM.
- I remember a time pablo fsing against your team when we were banned from room mid-game for no reason. This was one of your friends I guess but still doesn't give a good view when no explanation or apology from you.
- Your team name is "Terrorist Haxball Club"....cmon that's nearly as bad as Pablo's name.

I think you are a good guy and you helped FM a lot with gotw this season but these would have been concerns for me. When it's so close on decision then any small thing can make difference. Sorry that you weren't accepted this time.

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 11:02 am
by Yannex
socrates wrote:The team choices were not the ones I'd have chosen but surprise I will defend the admins here as usual.

- A teams ability/level is not a main consideration for teams being accepted in FM and never has been. Those suggesting the decisions were based on that are wrong.
- There is no "fairness" criteria either. If a team is the most active fsing, have applied many times or helped with FM jobs in the past that also doesn't guarantee they would be accepted if there are other concerns surrounding the team.
- There is always a subjective opinion from admins on who is the most likely to be friendly, stable and reliable in the future. There is no way of knowing for sure who this could be so ofc some gut feeling is involved and each of the admins didn't agree completely (they each would probably chose some different teams alone but they have to compromise on decisions).
- No matter what FM admins do they get called shit which is really unfair in my opinion. They hate this decision every season as they can't win no matter what they decide. They don't want a monopoly of haxball, if people are constantly complaining about them then please make your own league. Haxball certainly needs more leagues and it's harsh on admins to have to reject so many teams all the time with nowhere else to play.



i agree even tho i used to complain aswell on a different matter, the simple solution is to disable comments on such topics like these.
anyone got a problem they can contact admin's in PM's where they may or may not get an explanation.
and the people that decide to act like kids opening their own topics crying about these matters for first should get a warning,
if that wont help they should get banned for a specific amount of time (1st leg of the season for example) and wont be able to play

thats what you should to do in my opinion...
or stay the same and eat the same shit from these kids.. i dont really care since i'm not an admin :thumbup:

heil admin Fritzler!

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 11:10 am
by aMp
Yannex wrote:
socrates wrote:The team choices were not the ones I'd have chosen but surprise I will defend the admins here as usual.

- A teams ability/level is not a main consideration for teams being accepted in FM and never has been. Those suggesting the decisions were based on that are wrong.
- There is no "fairness" criteria either. If a team is the most active fsing, have applied many times or helped with FM jobs in the past that also doesn't guarantee they would be accepted if there are other concerns surrounding the team.
- There is always a subjective opinion from admins on who is the most likely to be friendly, stable and reliable in the future. There is no way of knowing for sure who this could be so ofc some gut feeling is involved and each of the admins didn't agree completely (they each would probably chose some different teams alone but they have to compromise on decisions).
- No matter what FM admins do they get called shit which is really unfair in my opinion. They hate this decision every season as they can't win no matter what they decide. They don't want a monopoly of haxball, if people are constantly complaining about them then please make your own league. Haxball certainly needs more leagues and it's harsh on admins to have to reject so many teams all the time with nowhere else to play.



i agree even tho i used to complain aswell on a different matter, the simple solution is to disable comments on such topics like these.
anyone got a problem they can contact admin's in PM's where they may or may not get an explanation.
and the people that decide to act like kids opening their own topics crying about these matters for first should get a warning,
if that wont help they should get banned for a specific amount of time (1st leg of the season for example) and wont be able to play

thats what you should to do in my opinion...
or stay the same and eat the same shit from these kids.. i dont really care since i'm not an admin :thumbup:

heil admin Fritzler!


+10 from me

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 11:17 am
by Anddy
FFS I JUST UNDERSTOOD THE PABLO HAXOBAR NAME I'M GONNA CRY

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 11:18 am
by El Drago
Lozano wrote:I mentioned " every kind of decision " Teams who got created 1 week ago getting prefered over guys who created it months ago and also been active during this time, that's such a shame imho.

Some of them created the team 1 day before getting accepted lmao . It s all based on relations i m not even going to try anymore jaja

Re: Season 25 Announcements (4v4)

PostPosted: May 8th, 2019, 11:48 am
by aeRo
THE HAXBALL GODS HAVE SPOKEN

BLASPHEMY WILL BE MET WITH MERCILESS AND RELENTLESS JUSTICE