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Lumi wrote:love london is an idiot as were most players who played for ti sparta
Rautovic wrote:Maybe just stop to complain about others and talk bad about other teams and we'll see where it all leads to.
mlfaijati wrote:I'll save the admins some flack I guess:
The reason that projectiles, pas de nom and italian haxballers got rejected is because they were already longstanding teams with only players from one nation. Aside from the obvious ping problems that could arise (Ajhax vs Pas De Nom... you best hope that you're best friends with viictor or something), the point of FM isn't to be a platform for already established teams to compete, this isn't YeS before the hack - no good league should really be like YeS before the hack, because it is very hard to sustain and all sense of community is lost.
I remember Fritz used to say a lot of things which were good in these arguements (when he didn't want AoD in YeS for example), and some of the things he said made sense - speaking about how as an admin he doesn't owe anybody anything, he doesn't get paid etc so he doesn't have a duty to accept some teams over others. And really, Pas de nom in FM div 2??? Arguably they would win Div 1 - so putting them into Division 2 would just be stupid tbh.
I'm trying to say this without being xenophobic or anything, but if you look at all the teams in FM at the moment, one thing they share in common is that they have players from all different nationalities. Not in a complete sense, but the fact that players from all different nationalities implies players from different indiviual communities (that would exist within a country) have joined together to play together. FM is more about this than just housing teams that would already be completed and by all means would not accept other players aside from players of their own country.
Another thing Fritz used to put in his criteria of accepting new teams was: ''does this team play in another league'', the 3 teams I have listed before to my knowledge play (or at least played) together in a league. You could argue that this means that the team knows how to operate in a league properly and should get picked, but in FM from what I've seen (in my 5+ seasons) is that teams that have ''migrated'' from other leagues to play here are never as committed. You could point out IKEA and HC Pizza but despite how they are good teams and have no problems YeS is their priority. And once again, they have accepted players outside of just one nationality (even despite originally being based around German and Finnish respectively). I may be rambling, but just look at Game of Thrones last Season, they clearly did not care (as much or not at all - i'll leave you to decide) about the league and that led to problems with impersonating.
Finally, imo it is unfair to deny a team that has formed itself just to play in FM (vH for example) as they don't have another league to play in. Being honest here, Projectiles, pas de nom and ITA haxball team all have other leagues to play in - so being rejected here isn't the end of the world for them; whereas for other teams this is not the case.
I rushed this so there is probably many inaccuracies. At the end of the day you aren't going to change the admins decision, so this was just some explanation into their thought process.
fuking essays i love them
EdinsonCavani wrote:Maybe it's better to accept teams which has players from all countries? You can't call this "group" a TEAM, just a lot of players from Free Players channel, they can disband anytime
n1 Alexis
EdinsonCavani wrote:No sense and I explain why
Part 1
The reason that projectiles, pas de nom and italian haxballers got rejected is because they were already longstanding teams with only players from one nation. Aside from the obvious ping problems.
- We've played more of an international competition and NO ONE in 2 seasons complains us for ping problems! Teams as zaqhax and others allways congratulated with us for our behaviour
http://www.haxballtube.com/watch/f084784117
http://www.haxballtube.com/watch/7e713c0d9d
http://www.haxballtube.com/watch/fff3e03fbf
http://www.haxballtube.com/watch/1989aaed14
Part 2
Fritz knew my team and knew our behaviour as all 50 teams of YeS, so you can say of us all but not that we have "Ping Problems" or that we have a "bad behaviour" because a team who has ping problems don't play 2 seasons of YeS without bringing problems . Then we played 2 FunCups and no one complains us
<14:43:47> "EdinsonCavani": Fritz, Nes said me that probably all italian teams could be kicked from the competition. There aren't italian fair teams a part my team, i hope you will kick not all italian teams.
<14:44:19> "Fritz": no we dont kick ITA
Then i don't know why my team was kicked, but Fritz then said me that my team bring no problems and so he made me vip of YeS, so i could Join #69
Part 3
Not in a complete sense, but the fact that players from all different nationalities implies players from different indiviual communities
Really? Am i blind or i see only german players in TurnUpTurnips?
Part 4
Being honest here, Projectiles, pas de nom and ITA haxball team all have other leagues to play in
Really? HC Pizza and Game of Thrones played this competition as Your E-Sports or am in error? Haven't Fatality the spanish community? If italian players have a league to play in, be coerent and kick all italians to make place to people of other nations
Part 5
BEING HONEST YOU COULD SAY IT 2 MONTHS AGO AND NOT NOW AFTER 2 MONTHS OF ACTIVITY AND DECEIVING US PUTTING MY TEAM IN THE GREAT WAITING LIST, if you know that we couldn't join because we're a team of FUCKING RETARD ITALIANS, YOU COULD SAY IT!
Be Coerent
EdinsonCavani wrote:yes you are they have an austrian too
Total
So fatality isn't a spanish team, and TurnUp isn't a german team because they had a foreigner. ohoho ok, so if my player B u l l didn't emigrate in Italy from Romania maybe we could join in the competition
Ridicoulous your irony, then frank sent the inscription to the league when he had 5 players and there were no projects, now there is a great project with cep good luck. his team was taken only for the name, there isn't nothing of the old quickswans in this team (adonis - lorik - serpe)
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