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Joehan wrote:well if theres 2nd teams then they shouldnt be allowed to be promoted so i dont see the point

Rachel wrote:Rightio, gonna drop some srs logic on dis fred

We seem to be having the same old arguments about Reserve Leagues and Reserve Teams and why we should have B/II teams instead of Reserve Teams because people don't recognise the difference. So, obviously, this is my opinion on the matter. In full.



My reasons for being against a "Reserve Team/League":

For one, I think just the name "reserve" is a little demeaning. If I was a newcomer to the league and was looking for a way to improve my skills, and I saw a structure of 2 main divisions and a reserve league, I'd be a little put off knowing I was going to end up in the reserves. This is mainly because I'd be looking for a team to settle into (inb4 >rachel settling etc - it's old, stfu), rather than get into a team and just try to prove myself worthy enough to join a "proper" team. This kind of mentality also forms players which started out kind of by themselves. Let's face it, if a player is trying to prove themselves worthy, they're gonna be selfish on the ball, maybe try skills they aren't ready to perform - thus letting the team down (in both instances). This isn't the kind of environment which develops good teamplayers, which is exactly what haxball is about. There's also the fact that I really don't think a reserve league will create competitive teams. And yeah I know most people will disagree with everything I just said, but think about it clearly and then read on for an example of a better environment to develop new talent.

My opinion on B/II/2nd teams:

These teams are in fact real, competitive teams, which have a chance of actually achieving something. I think this is a much better way of developing players. It gives them a hunger for success right off the bat, gives them something to aim towards - not just as an individual player, but as a team. And that's what we should be aiming for. Yeah, it's alright helping to improve newer players but what about newer teams? I think if you put together a mixture of old and new, you create a team which has the experience as well as the hunger for success (from the newer players). It creates a much better team spirit, a sense of "we're in this together".



Overall I think it's better for the league if we have real, competitive teams where newer players can go to improve themselves. Because in these teams they can develop every aspect of themself as a player. Something which you cannot do in a reserve team.

As for what happens to the team if it gets promoted and is forced to split away which a brand new captain - well then it's up to the previous captain to ensure the team is in good hands after the split, and won't fall into the trap of filling the teams with superstars. Before that, it's up to us admins to ensure that the original captains are capable of making that happen.

If you're gonna quote me and reply - do so constructively.

Pekrin wrote:There should be a limit of foreigners in a team in Division 2 or Reserves League (if this would happen).

Rachel wrote:Rightio, gonna drop some srs logic on dis fred

We seem to be having the same old arguments about Reserve Leagues and Reserve Teams and why we should have B/II teams instead of Reserve Teams because people don't recognise the difference. So, obviously, this is my opinion on the matter. In full.



My reasons for being against a "Reserve Team/League":

For one, I think just the name "reserve" is a little demeaning. If I was a newcomer to the league and was looking for a way to improve my skills, and I saw a structure of 2 main divisions and a reserve league, I'd be a little put off knowing I was going to end up in the reserves. This is mainly because I'd be looking for a team to settle into (inb4 >rachel settling etc - it's old, stfu), rather than get into a team and just try to prove myself worthy enough to join a "proper" team. This kind of mentality also forms players which started out kind of by themselves. Let's face it, if a player is trying to prove themselves worthy, they're gonna be selfish on the ball, maybe try skills they aren't ready to perform - thus letting the team down (in both instances). This isn't the kind of environment which develops good teamplayers, which is exactly what haxball is about. There's also the fact that I really don't think a reserve league will create competitive teams. And yeah I know most people will disagree with everything I just said, but think about it clearly and then read on for an example of a better environment to develop new talent.

My opinion on B/II/2nd teams:

These teams are in fact real, competitive teams, which have a chance of actually achieving something. I think this is a much better way of developing players. It gives them a hunger for success right off the bat, gives them something to aim towards - not just as an individual player, but as a team. And that's what we should be aiming for. Yeah, it's alright helping to improve newer players but what about newer teams? I think if you put together a mixture of old and new, you create a team which has the experience as well as the hunger for success (from the newer players). It creates a much better team spirit, a sense of "we're in this together".



Overall I think it's better for the league if we have real, competitive teams where newer players can go to improve themselves. Because in these teams they can develop every aspect of themself as a player. Something which you cannot do in a reserve team.

As for what happens to the team if it gets promoted and is forced to split away which a brand new captain - well then it's up to the previous captain to ensure the team is in good hands after the split, and won't fall into the trap of filling the teams with superstars. Before that, it's up to us admins to ensure that the original captains are capable of making that happen.

If you're gonna quote me and reply - do so constructively.

Rachel wrote:Rightio, gonna drop some srs logic on dis fred

We seem to be having the same old arguments about Reserve Leagues and Reserve Teams and why we should have B/II teams instead of Reserve Teams because people don't recognise the difference. So, obviously, this is my opinion on the matter. In full.



My reasons for being against a "Reserve Team/League":

For one, I think just the name "reserve" is a little demeaning. If I was a newcomer to the league and was looking for a way to improve my skills, and I saw a structure of 2 main divisions and a reserve league, I'd be a little put off knowing I was going to end up in the reserves. This is mainly because I'd be looking for a team to settle into (inb4 >rachel settling etc - it's old, stfu), rather than get into a team and just try to prove myself worthy enough to join a "proper" team. This kind of mentality also forms players which started out kind of by themselves. Let's face it, if a player is trying to prove themselves worthy, they're gonna be selfish on the ball, maybe try skills they aren't ready to perform - thus letting the team down (in both instances). This isn't the kind of environment which develops good teamplayers, which is exactly what haxball is about. There's also the fact that I really don't think a reserve league will create competitive teams. And yeah I know most people will disagree with everything I just said, but think about it clearly and then read on for an example of a better environment to develop new talent.

In terms of being demeaning, reserve league = b team tbh, doesn't make any sense. The reserve league WILL create competitive teams, they will compete against OTHER reserve teams and the reserve league as a whole will create an environment that new players/teamless players will ONLY be playing against new players/teamless players therefore it will succeed in the task of helping new players be part of the league. If you make the teams in a very competitive Division 2 then it will be harder for these new players to get signed as the league is still competitive WITH A GOAL of being promoted to an EVEN MORE competitive Division 1.

My opinion on B/II/2nd teams:

These teams are in fact real, competitive teams, which have a chance of actually achieving something. I think this is a much better way of developing players. It gives them a hunger for success right off the bat, gives them something to aim towards - not just as an individual player, but as a team. And that's what we should be aiming for. Yeah, it's alright helping to improve newer players but what about newer teams? I think if you put together a mixture of old and new, you create a team which has the experience as well as the hunger for success (from the newer players). It creates a much better team spirit, a sense of "we're in this together".

And a reserve league will not create this? Of course players will be 'motivated' in a reserve league - to win the title of the league of course, and the 'reward' after this is being signed to a Division 1/2 team to then play in the league proper.


Overall I think it's better for the league if we have real, competitive teams where newer players can go to improve themselves. Because in these teams they can develop every aspect of themself as a player. Something which you cannot do in a reserve team.

As for what happens to the team if it gets promoted and is forced to split away which a brand new captain - well then it's up to the previous captain to ensure the team is in good hands after the split, and won't fall into the trap of filling the teams with superstars. Before that, it's up to us admins to ensure that the original captains are capable of making that happen.

If you're gonna quote me and reply - do so constructively.

Pekrin wrote:There should be a limit of foreigners in a team in Division 2 or Reserves League (if this would happen).

s.signorelli wrote:@Rachel tbh im more confused with the fact that earlier you said you did not care about the game anymore (reason why you gave your admin away), and you were going to retire your captaincy at the end of season 5; and now you want to captain two team....... rach pls.