¿BIG O BIG EASY?

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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby OvoXo » April 27th, 2013, 11:43 am

Why I'm against Big Easy

1. Teams can score goals easy as fuck, they don't know how to form tactics for offence or defence. In all honesty you have teams losing on big with scorelines that are questionable whether or not that they're even fit to play in the league cause they suck so bad.
2. Big Easy is more fun and a better to play on but the big problem is not everyone is better or equal to how they would perform on big.
3. I don't want to play all season against inexperienced teams on big easy and wait for Arriba (lol jk they're in relegation zone), Starlights, Bayer, ACDP (lol div 2) and etc who are experienced on Big easy and then the game will be worthwhile, everyone says big easier is more fun well it is but its not fun when you get haram (haram = wrong) scorelines every single game vs teams who aren't as experienced.
4. Teams are already looking to pull out i.e Pablo & Sparta cause tbh we're strongly against big easy because as fun as it may be its not worth it.
5. mlf (massive looking fart) started this topic who is an irrelevant person cause he sucks on big and on big ez and just wanted to cause a shit storm.
6. Also the goals are bigger, and the goal on big is already moderate enough to score on and on big ez goalkeeping becomes much more difficult, you get shit snipes from a distance that you would have saved on big but not on big ez because the goals are bigger and it makes it EASIER for you to score
7. Its called big easy because its easier for you to score.
8. Shit game experience
9. Shit user experience
10. Shit playing style
11. No fun

That's why I'm against it ^^

Now solutions to fix some of those causes why I'm against it....

1. Train these fuckers
2. Create tactics to defend and attack, build a team based on good chemistry and good players.
3. Have an official 4v4 big easy mini cup (2 legs) in the break for season 7.

Then based on that you can make a good decision to stick on big easy or big. At least I would like to try big easy mini cup before any decision is made.

ALSO IF WE GO BIG EASY AND THERE AREN'T ENOUGH TEAMS TO FIELD 2 LEAGUES OF 10 I'M OUTTA HERE

Also trolls @Girg, mlf, fap, jonny, mad and etc

Don't quote me and attack my opinion cause I honestly don't care. I stated my opinion and that's where I'm gonna leave it at

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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby rising star » April 27th, 2013, 11:47 am

wp ovo
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby naby » April 27th, 2013, 11:53 am

OvoXo wrote:Why I'm against Big Easy

1. Teams can score goals easy as fuck, they don't know how to form tactics for offence or defence. In all honesty you have teams losing on big with scorelines that are questionable whether or not that they're even fit to play in the league cause they suck so bad.
2. Big Easy is more fun and a better to play on but the big problem is not everyone is better or equal to how they would perform on big.
3. I don't want to play all season against inexperienced teams on big easy and wait for Arriba (lol jk they're in relegation zone), Starlights, Bayer, ACDP (lol div 2) and etc who are experienced on Big easy and then the game will be worthwhile, everyone says big easier is more fun well it is but its not fun when you get haram (haram = wrong) scorelines every single game vs teams who aren't as experienced.
4. Teams are already looking to pull out i.e Pablo & Sparta cause tbh we're strongly against big easy because as fun as it may be its not worth it.
5. mlf (massive looking fart) started this topic who is an irrelevant person cause he sucks on big and on big ez and just wanted to cause a shit storm.
6. Also the goals are bigger, and the goal on big is already moderate enough to score on and on big ez goalkeeping becomes much more difficult, you get shit snipes from a distance that you would have saved on big but not on big ez because the goals are bigger and it makes it EASIER for you to score
7. Its called big easy because its easier for you to score.
8. Shit game experience
9. Shit user experience
10. Shit playing style
11. No fun

That's why I'm against it ^^

Now solutions to fix some of those causes why I'm against it....

1. Train these fuckers
2. Create tactics to defend and attack, build a team based on good chemistry and good players.
3. Have an official 4v4 big easy mini cup (2 legs) in the break for season 7.

Then based on that you can make a good decision to stick on big easy or big. At least I would like to try big easy mini cup before any decision is made.

ALSO IF WE GO BIG EASY AND THERE AREN'T ENOUGH TEAMS TO FIELD 2 LEAGUES OF 10 I'M OUTTA HERE

Also trolls @Girg, mlf, fap, jonny, mad and etc

Don't quote me and attack my opinion cause I honestly don't care. I stated my opinion and that's where I'm gonna leave it at

inb4 tl;dr


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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Mick » April 27th, 2013, 12:03 pm

3v3 was better than 4v4
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby mlfaijati » April 27th, 2013, 12:04 pm

Going to attack your opinion idgaf. Don't make a massive post not expecting people to react to it.

OvoXo wrote:Why I'm against Big Easy

1. Teams can score goals easy as fuck, they don't know how to form tactics for offence or defence. In all honesty you have teams losing on big with scorelines that are questionable whether or not that they're even fit to play in the league cause they suck so bad.
How exactly is this against Big Easy? Bad teams are bad anyway so it really doesn't matter. Of course being bad is highlighted more on Big Easy but is that really a problem? It will encourage teams to actually make tactics whereas on Big everyone pretty much knows where they are supposed to be. Is your argument to stay on Big to protect teams that aren't good? If so then that is just silly and it's not even looking after your own interests as a manager of a top team.
2. Big Easy is more fun and a better to play on but the big problem is not everyone is better or equal to how they would perform on big.
You can't possibly know this and good teams will learn how to play it anyway.
3. I don't want to play all season against inexperienced teams on big easy and wait for Arriba (lol jk they're in relegation zone), Starlights, Bayer, ACDP (lol div 2) and etc who are experienced on Big easy and then the game will be worthwhile, everyone says big easier is more fun well it is but its not fun when you get haram (haram = wrong) scorelines every single game vs teams who aren't as experienced.
This happens anyway, see NL s4 and bayer s5/6.
4. Teams are already looking to pull out i.e Pablo & Sparta cause tbh we're strongly against big easy because as fun as it may be its not worth it.
If a team threatening to leave the league then surely they are 'disposable' and really it doesn't show much maturity. Do we really want teams that will leave if something is changed in the league?
5. mlf (massive looking fart) started this topic who is an irrelevant person cause he sucks on big and on big ez and just wanted to cause a shit storm.
Not exactly sure why you're attacking me, (very unorthodox insult btw) and I created this to save a bigger shitstorm later on. I guarentee that if this decision not spoken about and then just annonced then people would create an even bigger shitstorm and start to spout shit like 'omg we weren't told about this' etc etc.
6. Also the goals are bigger, and the goal on big is already moderate enough to score on and on big ez goalkeeping becomes much more difficult, you get shit snipes from a distance that you would have saved on big but not on big ez because the goals are bigger and it makes it EASIER for you to score
GK being more difficult doesn't make it worse, look at the amount of experienced GK's who are in support of Big Easy.
7. Its called big easy because its easier for you to score.
You do realise that you have 4 players defending on Big Easy?

8. Shit game experience
wot
9. Shit user experience
wot
10. Shit playing style
wot
11. No fun
wot

That's why I'm against it ^^

Now solutions to fix some of those causes why I'm against it....

1. Train these fuckers
2. Create tactics to defend and attack, build a team based on good chemistry and good players.
3. Have an official 4v4 big easy mini cup (2 legs) in the break for season 7.

Quoting someone else probably by saying that a pre-season cup isn't likely to work.

Then based on that you can make a good decision to stick on big easy or big. At least I would like to try big easy mini cup before any decision is made.

ALSO IF WE GO BIG EASY AND THERE AREN'T ENOUGH TEAMS TO FIELD 2 LEAGUES OF 10 I'M OUTTA HERE

Also trolls @Girg, mlf, fap, jonny, mad and etc

Don't quote me and attack my opinion cause I honestly don't care. I stated my opinion and that's where I'm gonna leave it at

inb4 tl;dr
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NWA:
Came like 6th in Div 2B then disbanded the team.

The Real Rocknrolla:
When the going gets tough...

ACDP:
Benchride to title!

Overall:
A travesty.

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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Ghost » April 27th, 2013, 12:45 pm

Here's what I see so far, 50% for, 50% against. A large majority of the against will stay even if we do switch to big easy because they have no viable alternative, and several of the against don't even have teams and likely aren't going to be joining one any time soon(no offence).

So, what do we really lose by changing?

Maybe a couple of teams who we'd probably be better off without, if they are so ready to take their toys and go home.

What do we gain?

Maybe a couple of teams who'd like to try something new in big easy. Invaluable knowledge that we can't get from any other scenario, you can not truly judge how big easy will progress from cups where there will be limited games played, you can only judge it over the course of a whole season where teams will be playing it constantly in friendlies and in league games.

All variables which we can't be certain of until we change, obviously, but is it not worth the gamble? It's 1 season, if it fails it fails, we switch back, if it works it works, we stick with it and we continue to grow.
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby OvoXo » April 27th, 2013, 12:51 pm

Big ez it is
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby mlfaijati » April 27th, 2013, 12:52 pm

Yes indeed, my work here is done.
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G.I. Joehans:
[s]Won Div 2 and Cup[/s] Got carried by Fritz.

ARRIBA!:
Got carried by jonny then disbanded the team.

NWA:
Came like 6th in Div 2B then disbanded the team.

The Real Rocknrolla:
When the going gets tough...

ACDP:
Benchride to title!

Overall:
A travesty.

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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby s.signorelli » April 27th, 2013, 12:55 pm

i played big easy with vH against The Romanian National Team, for the first half i didnt enjoy it as i was conceding like 8 goals and playing extremely shite (as ive only played big ez once before in one of rens pubs), but i started to get use to it, and started have alot fun. like in big if you're a gk and you score, the opposing keeper is probably like me pretty shit. but in big easy you get good goal scoring chances (i got like 5, and missed...).

ye you concede more in big easy, but so do the other team. but if you want to play big, there are lot's of leagues which play 4v4 eg Your-esports.
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Milk » April 27th, 2013, 1:00 pm

mlfaijati wrote:Yes indeed, my work here is done.


Say goodbye to your clean sheet statistics.
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby noj » April 27th, 2013, 1:24 pm

lr16 wrote:That's just an excuse that the community is voting big and not big easy. Why should you be able to question the level of playing quality that the so-said part of the voters have not experienced?

Would it be fair for me to decide RFL is shit from the quality of pub rooms? Imo no, the game could actually be alright with a decent players.
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Donny » April 27th, 2013, 1:32 pm

s.signorelli wrote:there are lot's of leagues which play 4v4 eg Your-esports.


And there's leagues which play Big Easy. American ones and Russian ones...
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby mlfaijati » April 27th, 2013, 1:33 pm

Are you seriously implying that we have to brave ~150 ping or more to play Big Easy?

Good solution.
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NWA:
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The Real Rocknrolla:
When the going gets tough...

ACDP:
Benchride to title!

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A travesty.

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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Usopp » April 27th, 2013, 1:34 pm

Donny wrote:
s.signorelli wrote:there are lot's of leagues which play 4v4 eg Your-esports.


And there's leagues which play Big Easy. American ones and Russian ones...


i think someone said czech does too? if they do the ping should be perfect there
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby mlfaijati » April 27th, 2013, 1:35 pm

Define perfect.
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G.I. Joehans:
[s]Won Div 2 and Cup[/s] Got carried by Fritz.

ARRIBA!:
Got carried by jonny then disbanded the team.

NWA:
Came like 6th in Div 2B then disbanded the team.

The Real Rocknrolla:
When the going gets tough...

ACDP:
Benchride to title!

Overall:
A travesty.

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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Hannes » April 27th, 2013, 1:35 pm

Usopp wrote:
Donny wrote:
s.signorelli wrote:there are lot's of leagues which play 4v4 eg Your-esports.


And there's leagues which play Big Easy. American ones and Russian ones...


i think someone said czech does too? if they do the ping should be perfect there


And lithuanian league too
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby lr16 » April 27th, 2013, 1:36 pm

Girgensons wrote:
lr16 wrote:45-42 atm, that's 51.7% for BIG and 48.3% for BIG EZ.

Get your facts straight, the people want BIG

If we factor out all the Albanians, Spanish people, Turks, Romanians, Indians, Somalians and Pakis AND children under the age of 18 with no voting rights, clearly *the people* want BIG EZ.

gg no re


Mate, don't you live in Latvia or something? Isn't this a UK league?
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Usopp » April 27th, 2013, 1:37 pm

mlfaijati wrote:Define perfect.


~100
i can get 80s and 90s in czech pubs
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby Donny » April 27th, 2013, 1:37 pm

mlfaijati wrote:Are you seriously implying that we have to brave ~150 ping or more to play Big Easy?

Good solution.


Wow, you can tell you never played Hax before 2012. 150 was once good ping in UK rooms. It's easily playable.
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Re: ¿BIG O BIG EASY?

Postby mlfaijati » April 27th, 2013, 1:38 pm

Define playable.
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G.I. Joehans:
[s]Won Div 2 and Cup[/s] Got carried by Fritz.

ARRIBA!:
Got carried by jonny then disbanded the team.

NWA:
Came like 6th in Div 2B then disbanded the team.

The Real Rocknrolla:
When the going gets tough...

ACDP:
Benchride to title!

Overall:
A travesty.

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