when u try to do double with macro at hcl semifinals

[taziek]

And i admitted to used macro and this is macro 100%

[Mario Gómez]

[LaggerMet]

ye and there's so much FM can do about it

[JC7s hayki]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boZHwsJ-oZQ
This video from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 14.39,
0.800 - 0.883 - 0.950 - 0.017 | 83 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOyAGlEFvpI
from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 10.09,
0.450 - 0.517 - 0.583 - 0.650 | 67 - 67 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29b9n12dCdI
from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 29.51
0.633 - 0.683 - 0.750 - 0.833 - 0.900 - 0.983 - 0.050 - 0.133 - 0.200 - 0.267 | 50 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTk8qvkcFJI
from, (another game) https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 35a4974114 15.50
0.150 - 0.217 - 0.283 - 0.367 - 0.433 - 0.517 - 0.583 | 67 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67

As you can see on the video (in the new analyzer) and on recs, the delay between kicks in miliseconds is almost identical and the delays themselves are very small, so it is evident that he is using macro in these situations, you can see the delays are always around 67ms between each kick, that is around 15 kicks per second, which is very hard to do without macro.
and @supernatural i think if you blame anyone with macro, you should also check their opponents

[supernatural]

lopl

[Hulk]

Honeslty i'm done with all these posts about macro, Open a software like ILH back in the days that u can see someone's desktop and what he is doing. I'm done playing against people that cry about macro and use it the next day.

Saviola is smart enough to make a software like this, Even if we have to pay for it, Ill be here to help with it.


See you.

[Adem Ljajić]

You should not do macro analysis on YouTube video, atleast you need replay file for this.

Also its normal position, i dont want to tire myself by explaining it for a long time.

Thanks.

[supernatural]

You should not do macro analysis on YouTube video, atleast you need replay file for this.

Also its normal position, i dont want to tire myself by explaining it for a long time.

Thanks.

If you are going to say something please support your message with enough information atleast. You are saying its normal position, against people who provided very nice data for this turya guy ingame kicks.

I am showing you his kicks have extremely low delay milliseconds. Which is impossible to do. And you are just saying it's normal position. No need to perceive. It's obvious that he used macro in semifinals.

Show me one guy can kick the ball two times in 15 milliseconds without macro, then we discuss something.


tip: 15 milliseconds isn't 15 seconds guys, wake up.

[Olic]

Lets be honest right now. If they would lose the semi final by defloss due to macro usage what will help you with? Like seriously, you dont win anything, I understand people want to end this macro era forever, but with people who will agree that he uses macro or with people who wont agree the macro usage it will be a constant conversation that will never come to an end with no verdict.

P.S. Even the captain of the opponent team wants this conversation to end as he accepts the lose he got in the HCL semi final.

[supernatural]

Lets be honest right now. If they would lose the semi final by defloss due to macro usage what will help you with? Like seriously, you dont win anything, I understand people want to end this macro era forever, but with people who will agree that he uses macro or with people who wont agree the macro usage it will be a constant conversation that will never come to an end with no verdict.

They win or lose, does it matter? Do they start to playing HCL from semifinals? Just imagine how many times this guy used macro before he came to semifinals. Just imagine how he stole people's deserved win maybe. It's not about winning or losing. This is basically stealing. If you have macro, you steal someones time, energy, well deserved victory and many more.

From here I want to shoutout to CL admins, they should give the right decision about this DEATHWISH team and their victories.

[Olic]

Lets be honest right now. If they would lose the semi final by defloss due to macro usage what will help you with? Like seriously, you dont win anything, I understand people want to end this macro era forever, but with people who will agree that he uses macro or with people who wont agree the macro usage it will be a constant conversation that will never come to an end with no verdict.

They win or lose, does it matter? Do they start to playing HCL from semifinals? Just imagine how many times this guy used macro before he came to semifinals. Just imagine how he stole people's deserved win maybe. It's not about winning or losing. This is basically stealing. If you have macro, you steal someones time, energy, well deserved victory and many more.

From here I want to shoutout to CL admins, they should give the right decision about this DEATHWISH team and their victories.

I understand your statement and I totally agree with you but as I said, I havent seen any current or past captain on the HCL who reported a case of macro for turya. As soon as they accepted a lose, I think there is nothing you can do properly, and a HCL cant comeback to its start. It is already the final of it. I think you can agree with me the competition cant start from the beggining.

[Adem Ljajić]

You should not do macro analysis on YouTube video, atleast you need replay file for this.

Also its normal position, i dont want to tire myself by explaining it for a long time.

Thanks.

If you are going to say something please support your message with enough information atleast. You are saying its normal position, against people who provided very nice data for this turya guy ingame kicks.

Hayki and me showing you his kicks have extremely low delay milliseconds. Which is impossible to do. And you are just saying it's normal position. No need to perceive. It's obvious that he used macro in semifinals.

Show me one guy can kick the ball two times in 15 milliseconds without macro, then we discuss something.


tip: 15 milliseconds isn't 15 seconds guys, wake up.

I dont want to explain everything in every macro topic because you guys think everytime as u said ;

i played this game really enough and i can understand who is macro and who is not.

So;

You are not their opponent. if u want to do positive thing for yourself, talk with their opponents and they can apply to HCL for this macro suspicion.

There is no point in discussing the topic of FM and discussing 5 pages. You have to do the right thing, if you do not apply with the right method why should i feel compelled to explain everything to you?

[El Drago]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boZHwsJ-oZQ
This video from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 14.39,
0.800 - 0.883 - 0.950 - 0.017 | 83 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOyAGlEFvpI
from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 10.09,
0.450 - 0.517 - 0.583 - 0.650 | 67 - 67 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29b9n12dCdI
from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 29.51
0.633 - 0.683 - 0.750 - 0.833 - 0.900 - 0.983 - 0.050 - 0.133 - 0.200 - 0.267 | 50 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTk8qvkcFJI
from, (another game) https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 35a4974114 15.50
0.150 - 0.217 - 0.283 - 0.367 - 0.433 - 0.517 - 0.583 | 67 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67

As you can see on the video (in the new analyzer) and on recs, the delay between kicks in milliseconds is almost identical and the delays themselves are very small, so it is evident that he is using macro in these situations, you can see the delays are always around 67ms between each kick, that is around 15 kicks per second, which is very hard to do without macro.
and @supernatural I think if you blame anyone with macro, you should also check their opponents

It`s all about the computer and keyboard that you have. Most of the mechanical keyboards have no delay, if I slightly touch X button it presses instantly, so if I were to spam shift/space + x it will be above average. To be honest, I don t think macro has any effect with this kick limiter because I`ve done a test in which a friend played with macro and we spammed against each other. The result was pretty unclear because it depends on positioning and other factors, but in my point of view, if you have a decent setup, there is no need for macro to spam well. The limiter was making the macro extremely slower. i think more than it was its purpose, but yes macro is an advantage but only in some circumstances.

[Lyreco]

You should not do macro analysis on YouTube video, atleast you need replay file for this.

Also its normal position, i dont want to tire myself by explaining it for a long time.

Thanks.

Why the fuck would you post then

[Adem Ljajić]

You should not do macro analysis on YouTube video, atleast you need replay file for this.

Also its normal position, i dont want to tire myself by explaining it for a long time.

Thanks.

Why the fuck would you post then

He shared YouTube video with us thats why i said;

You should not do macro analysis on YouTube video, atleast you need replay file for this.

Did u understand now?

[supernatural]

Lets be honest right now. If they would lose the semi final by defloss due to macro usage what will help you with? Like seriously, you dont win anything, I understand people want to end this macro era forever, but with people who will agree that he uses macro or with people who wont agree the macro usage it will be a constant conversation that will never come to an end with no verdict.

They win or lose, does it matter? Do they start to playing HCL from semifinals? Just imagine how many times this guy used macro before he came to semifinals. Just imagine how he stole people's deserved win maybe. It's not about winning or losing. This is basically stealing. If you have macro, you steal someones time, energy, well deserved victory and many more.

From here I want to shoutout to CL admins, they should give the right decision about this DEATHWISH team and their victories.

I understand your statement and I totally agree with you but as I said, I havent seen any current or past captain on the HCL who reported a case of macro for turya. As soon as they accepted a lose, I think there is nothing you can do properly, and a HCL cant comeback to its start. It is already the final of it. I think you can agree with me the competition cant start from the beggining.

I agree with you. But you know what, I see that position while watching the match from YouTube and when I see that position I was 100% sure that he is using macro. Maybe no one noticed it before me. Who knows, like you know I don't care about passes and stuff when I watch replays. I only look what players do when they put the ball to line. So when I see this, I realized something is wrong. And now we discuss here.

Even they don't start the tournament from beginning. They should start it from quarter finals atleast, and then they should eliminate Deathwish from CL and re-simulate the fixtures without Deathwish. Maybe it will add 1 or 2 more week to final time. But atleast this time it can be better answer to macro users who plans to use that shit in big tournaments.

[supernatural]

It`s all about the computer and keyboard that you have. Most of the mechanical keyboards have no delay, if I slightly touch X button it presses instantly, so if I were to spam shift/space + x it will be above average. To be honest, I don t think macro has any effect with this kick limiter because I`ve done a test in which a friend played with macro and we spammed against each other. The result was pretty unclear because it depends on positioning and other factors, but in my point of view, if you have a decent setup, there is no need for macro to spam well. The limiter was making the macro extremely slower. i think more than it was its purpose, but yes macro is an advantage but only in some circumstances.

That's wrong. I have worlds fastest keyboard out here. ps: SteelSeries Apex Pro

And when u press button, it just sends it immediately. But that doesn't mean you can press the x button twice in less than 15 milliseconds. That is the problem. Like even with my keyboard its extremely hard thing to do and maybe you can only do it once. But this turya guy kicks the ball twice less than in 15milliseconds. now you understand bro? That's mean hes macro

[gio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boZHwsJ-oZQ
This video from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 14.39,
0.800 - 0.883 - 0.950 - 0.017 | 83 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOyAGlEFvpI
from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 10.09,
0.450 - 0.517 - 0.583 - 0.650 | 67 - 67 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29b9n12dCdI
from, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 5714033f8d 29.51
0.633 - 0.683 - 0.750 - 0.833 - 0.900 - 0.983 - 0.050 - 0.133 - 0.200 - 0.267 | 50 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 67 - 67
------------------------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTk8qvkcFJI
from, (another game) https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?na ... 35a4974114 15.50
0.150 - 0.217 - 0.283 - 0.367 - 0.433 - 0.517 - 0.583 | 67 - 67 - 83 - 67 - 83 - 67

As you can see on the video (in the new analyzer) and on recs, the delay between kicks in miliseconds is almost identical and the delays themselves are very small, so it is evident that he is using macro in these situations, you can see the delays are always around 67ms between each kick, that is around 15 kicks per second, which is very hard to do without macro.
and @supernatural i think if you blame anyone with macro, you should also check their opponents

Welcome TURKISH HAXBALL, now with this extrapolation we can see easily turkish macros XD

[Olic]

As I know, a lot of games have a sort of anti-cheat for games like CS:GO, Valorant etc. I dont need to give more examples I think its enough. I think its the best if someone would create a software like Hulk mentioned above or to create a sort of anti-cheat to detect the players who have suspcious scripts. I think the tehnology is at one of the highest levels so I dont find it an impossible task for saviola. (Like that we would forever end this topics meant for macro usage and people have a lot of experience in this domain as I have seen the Falafel s replay analizer ).

[supernatural]

You are not their opponent. if u want to do positive thing for yourself, talk with their opponents and they can apply to HCL for this macro suspicion.

There is no point in discussing the topic of FM and discussing 5 pages. You have to do the right thing, if you do not apply with the right method why should i feel compelled to explain everything to you?

Their opponents see this page right? They can go and talk with CL admins. Why would I do that. I don't care, everyone have eyes and brain. If they don't see any problems losing against a macro user in CL Tournament it's not my problem. But that doesn't mean I will not expose these macro retards.