Did ‘luck’s 3v3 & 4v4 PRO VPS” lobby ruin Haxball.com?
Posted: June 12th, 2019, 5:50 pm
This post is a half-serious half-joke thread that I hope will entice some discussion about the current state of the beautiful game, Haxball saying as the previous macro thread got so much attention even though we’ve all known various players probably use macro for the past 5 years but what can you really do without some kind of VAC.
I personally despise the two 3v3 24/7 vps servers that luck is hosting. My main concern is that you have to wait 30 minutes as a spectator before playing. The room has 14 slots and is constantly at full capacity, so if you join you often need to wait around 30 minutes before playing!
For 3v3 pub rooms there used to seemingly be two main philosophies, either caps or wso – but nowadays more and more often, perhaps thanks to lucks room these days they do both! That can’t work! If you do wso fair enough, it gives an incentive to play well and lucks host bot shows the win streak. However surely you can’t to caps too. Therefore, unless you picked you need to wait until your top of the queue. Usually in a caps room you do not do wso and instead the top 2 players on spec become the captains and can pick players, including those who just played. The use of BOTH caps and wso rules just exacerbates the wait time issues along with the fact it’s a 14 slot room as opposed to 10 or even 12.
Maybe this is because more people played in the past or 3v3 was more popular with new players today opting for spaceball and fustal (there are genuinely more – probably over triple active futsal and spaceball/bounce players than those opting for regular, 1v1/2v2 classic or 3v3 big vanilla game modes. I remember there would always at least in the evening be at least 1 UK 3v3 room, maybe even 2! There would always be a Dutch 3v3 and a few German and French rooms too! Now there is literally never a 3v3 room from these great haxballing nations and if you try to get one started you wot get the numbers – even if you do the standard will be very low (that’s coming from me and I’m pretty shit at the game).
In summary there are NO western European Haxball rooms left other than lucks two 3v3 servers and bobo’s 3v3 server. Luck (yes that Spanish guy) has created a monopoly on 3v3 and I think it’s time to bust it up. You could argue hes done a good thing – paying his real life hard earned money into the game he loves to provide a 24/7 3v3 environment. I think maybe with changes this could be improved but personally, I have so many quarrels with the room I will now go onto list;
Uses both wso AND caps AND 14 player slot means long wait times… we’ve all joined only to become 14th on the list, watch a 5 min overtime 1-0 game. Only for the new captain to pick 2 of the 3 players from the loosing team. People get picked for their brand and reputation and people rarely do auto (I do get that if you do auto you normally get stuck with retards like me). Similarly, it’s too easy to hijack the room often there are players who must know each other and join in groups – particularly; Polish, Romanian, Turks and Israelis. I have nothing angst the fine people of these truly great haxballing nations but if there are say 3 or 4 people in the room of 14 from one specific nation they often pick each other and gain administrative privileges (I get picking friends is a thing but its not fun if your stuck on the bench for 30 minutes). The room also has a bot which automatically kicks players I think for sending 5 messages in a row – this is annoying when trying to troll but it also catches innocent victims in the crossfire – earlier today a player was having a conversation and instead of typing a long messages sent a few rapid-fire short messages and got kicked… so the game was paused adding 10 seconds to the already rather tedious 30 minute wait whilst he rejoined.
In summary, what do you think about lucks 3v3 room and what do you think about the state of Haxball in general in mid 2019? Lets be honest; few players now play 3v3 in pubs there is just a kinda closed community on team speak of people who’ve played for 4/5 if not more years. Same old faces. Many pubs now play space ball – which I despite or fustal – which is actually ok 4v4 games but many players don’t know basic positioning and is often full of French retards. Maybe we should just admit that 90% of Haxball players are turks because they are too poor to afford games like fifa and play Haxball instead and the remaining 10% of players are either 12 years old and/or autistic.
Thanks for reading and I look forward to conversing with you and listening to your views.
I personally despise the two 3v3 24/7 vps servers that luck is hosting. My main concern is that you have to wait 30 minutes as a spectator before playing. The room has 14 slots and is constantly at full capacity, so if you join you often need to wait around 30 minutes before playing!
For 3v3 pub rooms there used to seemingly be two main philosophies, either caps or wso – but nowadays more and more often, perhaps thanks to lucks room these days they do both! That can’t work! If you do wso fair enough, it gives an incentive to play well and lucks host bot shows the win streak. However surely you can’t to caps too. Therefore, unless you picked you need to wait until your top of the queue. Usually in a caps room you do not do wso and instead the top 2 players on spec become the captains and can pick players, including those who just played. The use of BOTH caps and wso rules just exacerbates the wait time issues along with the fact it’s a 14 slot room as opposed to 10 or even 12.
Maybe this is because more people played in the past or 3v3 was more popular with new players today opting for spaceball and fustal (there are genuinely more – probably over triple active futsal and spaceball/bounce players than those opting for regular, 1v1/2v2 classic or 3v3 big vanilla game modes. I remember there would always at least in the evening be at least 1 UK 3v3 room, maybe even 2! There would always be a Dutch 3v3 and a few German and French rooms too! Now there is literally never a 3v3 room from these great haxballing nations and if you try to get one started you wot get the numbers – even if you do the standard will be very low (that’s coming from me and I’m pretty shit at the game).
In summary there are NO western European Haxball rooms left other than lucks two 3v3 servers and bobo’s 3v3 server. Luck (yes that Spanish guy) has created a monopoly on 3v3 and I think it’s time to bust it up. You could argue hes done a good thing – paying his real life hard earned money into the game he loves to provide a 24/7 3v3 environment. I think maybe with changes this could be improved but personally, I have so many quarrels with the room I will now go onto list;
Uses both wso AND caps AND 14 player slot means long wait times… we’ve all joined only to become 14th on the list, watch a 5 min overtime 1-0 game. Only for the new captain to pick 2 of the 3 players from the loosing team. People get picked for their brand and reputation and people rarely do auto (I do get that if you do auto you normally get stuck with retards like me). Similarly, it’s too easy to hijack the room often there are players who must know each other and join in groups – particularly; Polish, Romanian, Turks and Israelis. I have nothing angst the fine people of these truly great haxballing nations but if there are say 3 or 4 people in the room of 14 from one specific nation they often pick each other and gain administrative privileges (I get picking friends is a thing but its not fun if your stuck on the bench for 30 minutes). The room also has a bot which automatically kicks players I think for sending 5 messages in a row – this is annoying when trying to troll but it also catches innocent victims in the crossfire – earlier today a player was having a conversation and instead of typing a long messages sent a few rapid-fire short messages and got kicked… so the game was paused adding 10 seconds to the already rather tedious 30 minute wait whilst he rejoined.
In summary, what do you think about lucks 3v3 room and what do you think about the state of Haxball in general in mid 2019? Lets be honest; few players now play 3v3 in pubs there is just a kinda closed community on team speak of people who’ve played for 4/5 if not more years. Same old faces. Many pubs now play space ball – which I despite or fustal – which is actually ok 4v4 games but many players don’t know basic positioning and is often full of French retards. Maybe we should just admit that 90% of Haxball players are turks because they are too poor to afford games like fifa and play Haxball instead and the remaining 10% of players are either 12 years old and/or autistic.
Thanks for reading and I look forward to conversing with you and listening to your views.