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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby FireFlight » June 10th, 2012, 6:12 pm

Ah okay
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Éver » June 10th, 2012, 6:58 pm

Girgensons wrote:I can do a rankings thing.

There's a couple of problems though:
1) I don't know half of the players on the list (mostly British players);
2) not sure if anyone gives a shit.

Anyone willing to help maybe?


I'm at the bottom of the list if that helps

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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Skillem1 » June 11th, 2012, 1:43 am

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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Menso Pelaez » June 11th, 2012, 3:08 am

Girgensons wrote:I can do a rankings thing.

There's a couple of problems though:
1) I don't know half of the players on the list (mostly British players);
2) not sure if anyone gives a shit.

Anyone willing to help maybe?


I could help you to do a top 20 draft players without looking at what position they play. Only their skill and their reputation(coz without that we dunno their skill)
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Cookies » June 11th, 2012, 9:53 am

That's the thing - if there are rankings, people might draft players they've never played with or even seen, just because of a list. Not knowing their strengths/weaknesses, not knowing how they fit into the team. No captain will know of or see every player but it's an advantage to captains if they know a great player that's not well known.

Rankings would probably be arbitrary anyway :/
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby naby » June 11th, 2012, 9:58 am

Don't do rankings, the whole point is for captains to scout players in the draft and list players who they would sign. I spent hours doing this last season, as im sure other captains did too, it's your fucking job as a captain
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Cookies » June 11th, 2012, 10:05 am

If you're a captain and you don't know any players, you're in trouble Image
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby naby » June 11th, 2012, 11:10 am

Cookies wrote:If you're a captain and you don't know any players, you're in trouble Image


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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Menso Pelaez » June 11th, 2012, 12:04 pm

I think it's also an unfair advantage me signing pro spanish ppl for example... Coz u can't know them as captain as they're not even gonna try to join UK rooms.

Girg let's do this only to make cookies and rachel get angry (and u wont be in top20 cookies for this comments :D)
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Girgensons » June 11th, 2012, 12:46 pm

Rachel wrote:Don't do rankings, the whole point is for captains to scout players in the draft and list players who they would sign. I spent hours doing this last season, as im sure other captains did too, it's your fucking job as a captain

Well, yes, that's my favorite part of the job - scouting for players and then convicing them to join the league. :)

But I'm afraid not everyone has so much time on their hands. It's better to publish a list (irrespective of how arbitrary it might be) than to have a couple of captains who pick naabs and fail miserably in the league.

Menso - check your PM.
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Cookies » June 11th, 2012, 1:13 pm

Menso Pelaez wrote:I think it's also an unfair advantage me signing pro spanish ppl for example... Coz u can't know them as captain as they're not even gonna try to join UK rooms.


It's not an unfair advantage, it's because you play in the Spanish league and on ESL so you know good players outside of FM. Other players here play in other leagues (including English players) and have an advantage over the ones that don't. To be honest, all captains will know who's good/bad/great on that list and if they don't they have players in their team that know. You don't need to know the whole list, just enough to build a strong team :)

All or most captains will have heard of the top players anyway. It's the later draft picks that you need to sort out.
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Menso Pelaez » June 11th, 2012, 1:19 pm

Then let us make that ranking only for fun and for those attention whores who wanna see themselves in top 20 :x

We didnt say anything but making that ranking is a power position... There u can get money from ppl to get in the list and all that stuff u know ?
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Maddude » June 11th, 2012, 1:59 pm

QEZO and aeRo are the only ones worth drafting, anyone else and you're stooopid
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Cookies » June 11th, 2012, 2:05 pm

Girgensons wrote:But I'm afraid not everyone has so much time on their hands. It's better to publish a list (irrespective of how arbitrary it might be) than to have a couple of captains who pick naabs and fail miserably in the league.


If a captain makes the wrong picks and fail in the league, it's their own fault. That's part of the fun of the draft - a captain making great draft picks to get a strong team together. The opposite end of the spectrum is every captain knowing in order the best to worst players in the draft (this can't really be done but it's just a point). Then it's a case of teams taking turns in the draft to pick in order of rank, which makes a draft boring.

Menso Pelaez wrote:Then let us make that ranking only for fun and for those attention whores who wanna see themselves in top 20 :x

We didnt say anything but making that ranking is a power position... There u can get money from ppl to get in the list and all that stuff u know ?


menso pls

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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Mick » June 11th, 2012, 3:00 pm

I think a ranking would also be quite offensive to draftees not included
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Girgensons » June 11th, 2012, 4:19 pm

Mik wrote:I think a ranking would also be quite offensive to draftees not included

The truth shouldn't hurt, Miki.
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Girgensons » June 11th, 2012, 6:12 pm

Here's the preliminary ranking: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkasPSkays9pdHRabS1oYjBmSWhzVjVpeHFreksyUkE

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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Constantinople » June 11th, 2012, 6:17 pm

You made that?
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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby Edgar Davids » June 11th, 2012, 6:21 pm

smh @ no lynchy, b0bs, am-99, deadly, shanade or qezo.

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Re: Season 4 Draft sign-ups [Sign-ups close 28th June]

Postby opc » June 11th, 2012, 6:25 pm

Disregarded that list as soon as I saw Pogge.
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