BAN HULK

[Barca]

l0l why is he still here

[juliano]

i think you cant tell about anyone here he uses macro for sure, and if you cant say that for sure you cant punish them! chro summed this all up very well.
but i would agree on allowing macro officially so everyone who would want would be able to use it the same way, but still wouldnt use it i think.. but probably its nicer this way, puts a lot more heart in the game if people nearly destroy their keyboards!

dont think that this shit even help.
double kicks- not realy hard, mybe if u are a pub player.
spams- spams are mostly position, not pressing X 495643694596 times.

[Barca]

i have the best keyboard with this ultimate win rate

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/920/623/368/368623920_427.jpg

[doupi]

lol like, is this trolling by hulk "haha i'm using macro look at me", or is this the worst attempt to hide using it, or maybe not giving a fuck knowing no one will do shit even though it could not be clearer to anyone with half a brain

[Herna]

people with full a brain might also consider he just has small brain damage enjoying to spam really fast in the corner without any sense and im sure he even agrees himself to have small brain damage, so this could really be.

[CHAMPION]

Go fk urself with ur macros
The spam is only for players who are really skilled in their hands

[DoktorWeis]

There is a one wise man in some "shitty" country called Serbia, who stopped this shit and fakeing players too, but who fucks him and who will listen to him.
You can test it by yourself, if you don't believe me.
http://shaxball.com/asistent/SH-Asistent.exe - direct link to download
#KobbazKagawaJeduMaluDjecu

[Duke]

If admins says the same history "cant prove bla bla"... is just ridicolous.

1st is obvious he is using macro and 2nd he said it on chat as doupi mention so i dont know why so much speculation about this honestly.

Just open your eyes and everything should be better in this community

[anglo]

First of all, of course macro is not OP you can beat it like previous speakers claimed. However it is possible to beat people using doping in sports as well. The point is still that it gives a slight advantage, which is cheat. I don't understand however why people would sell their soul to cheat in a flashgame without any money init, but it is not my business.

That the spam is incredibly fast I think we all can agree on. How would one be able to prove someone is using macro? I can tell you I can spam 1000x/second and nobody here could prove me wrong. What the parser mentioned gives us is unfortunately only the possibility to see 12/13 spams per second. And that is extremely fast spamming - but yes it is possible to spam with that rate even though very few can.

However, to present some interesting data regarding this rec - the data below can be found if parsing the rec. Here we can see several spam sequences with the rate 12-13 spams per second (during whole seconds(!)). The first one being the infamous corner spam (~02:07).


Hulk

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
02:07:016667------02:07:066667 ------ 0.05------ 0.01667
02:07:100000------02:07:166667------0.06667------0.03333
02:07:200000------02:07:250000------ 0.05------0.03333
02:07:266667------02:07:333333------0.06667------0.01667
02:07:383333------02:07:433333------0.05------0.05
02:07:450000------02:07:516667------0.06667------0.01667
02:07:550000------02:07:600000------0.05------0.03333
02:07:633333------02:07:700000------0.06667------0.03333
02:07:733333------02:07:783333------0.05------0.03333
02:07:816667------02:07:883333------0.06667------0.03333
02:07:900000------02:07:950000------0.05------0.01667
02:07:983333------02:08:050000------0.06667------0.03333
02:08:083333------02:08:133333------0.05------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
03:16:033333------03:16:083333------0.05------0.05
03:16:116667------03:16:166667------0.05------0.03333
03:16:216667------03:16:250000 0.03333------0.05
03:16:283333------03:16:333333------0.05------0.03333
03:16:366667------03:16:416667------0.05------0.03333
03:16:450000------03:16:500000------0.05------0.03333
03:16:533333------03:16:583333------0.05------0.03333
03:16:616667------03:16:666667------0.05------0.03333
03:16:683333------03:16:750000------0.06667------0.01667
03:16:766667------03:16:816667 ------0.05------0.01667
03:16:866667------03:16:916667------ 0.05------0.05
03:16:933333------03:17:000000 ------0.06667------0.01667
03:17:033333------03:17:083333 ------0.05------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
03:17:116667------03:17:166667 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:300000------03:17:333333 ------0.03333------0.13333
03:17:400000------03:17:433333 ------0.03333------0.06667
03:17:466667------03:17:516667 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:550000------03:17:616667 ------0.06667------0.03333
03:17:633333------03:17:683333 ------0.05------ 0.01667
03:17:716667------03:17:766667 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:816667------03:17:866667 ------0.05------0.05
03:17:900000------03:17:950000 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:966667------03:18:000000 ------0.03333------0.01667

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
03:29:066667------03:29:083333------ 0.01667------0.1
03:29:133333------03:29:183333 ------0.05------0.05
03:29:216667------03:29:250000------ 0.03333------0.03333
03:29:300000------03:29:350000 ------0.05------ 0.05
03:29:383333------03:29:416667 ------0.03333------0.03333
03:29:466667------03:29:516667 ------0.05------0.05
03:29:550000------03:29:600000------ 0.05------0.03333
03:29:633333------03:29:700000 ------0.06667------0.03333
03:29:733333------03:29:766667 ------0.03333------0.03333
03:29:800000------03:29:866667 ------0.06667------0.03333
03:29:900000------03:29:933333 ------0.03333------0.03333
03:29:983333------03:30:033333 ------0.05------0.05
03:30:083333------03:30:116667 ------0.03333------0.05

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
05:34:000000------05:34:050000 ------0.05------0.06667
05:34:083333------05:34:133333 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:166667------05:34:216667 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:233333------05:34:383333 ------0.15------0.01667
05:34:400000------05:34:466667 ------0.06667------0.01667
05:34:483333------05:34:550000 ------0.06667------0.01667
05:34:583333------05:34:633333 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:666667------05:34:716667 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:750000------05:34:800000 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:833333------05:34:883333 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:916667------05:34:966667 ------0.05------0.03333
05:35:016667------05:35:050000 ------0.03333------0.05

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
06:27:800000------06:27:833333 ------0.03333------0.06667
06:27:866667------06:27:900000 ------0.03333------0.03333
06:27:950000------06:27:983333 ------0.03333------0.05
06:28:016667------06:28:066667 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:100000------06:28:150000 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:183333------06:28:233333 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:266667------06:28:316667 ------0.05------ 0.03333
06:28:333333------06:28:400000 ------0.06667------0.01667
06:28:433333------06:28:466667 ------0.03333------0.03333
06:28:483333------06:28:550000 ------0.06667------0.01667
06:28:583333------06:28:633333 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:666667------06:28:700000 ------0.03333------0.03333
06:28:733333------06:28:766667 ------0.03333------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
07:30:750000------07:30:783333 ------0.03333------1.18333
07:30:816667------07:30:866667 ------0.05------0.03333
07:30:900000------07:30:950000 ------0.05------0.03333
07:30:966667------07:31:016667------ 0.05------0.01667
07:31:050000------07:31:116667 ------0.06667------0.03333
07:31:133333------07:31:183333 ------0.05------0.01667
07:31:216667------07:31:266667------ 0.05------0.03333
07:31:300000------07:31:350000 ------0.05------0.03333
07:31:383333------07:31:433333 ------0.05------0.03333
07:31:466667------07:31:516667 ------0.05------0.03333
07:31:583333------07:31:600000 ------0.01667------0.06667
07:31:633333------07:31:666667 ------0.03333------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
10:19:516667------10:19:566667 ------0.05------1.28333
10:19:616667------10:19:650000------ 0.03333------0.05
10:19:683333------10:19:733333------ 0.05------ 0.03333
10:19:766667------10:19:816667 ------0.05------0.03333
10:19:850000------10:19:900000 ------0.05------0.03333
10:19:933333------10:19:966667 ------0.03333------0.03333
10:20:016667------10:20:066667 ------0.05------0.05
10:20:100000------10:20:150000 ------0.05------0.03333
10:20:183333------10:20:233333 ------0.05------0.03333
10:20:283333------10:20:316667 ------0.03333------0.05
10:20:350000------10:20:416667------ 0.06667------0.03333
10:20:433333------10:20:483333 ------0.05------0.01667
10:20:516667------10:20:566667 ------0.05------0.03333


Meaning Hulk actually spams with the same rate several times during the game, not only in the sequence discussed. Maybe he is an incredible spammer. However, what at least strucs me looking at this data is that, sure it is possible to be that fast - but spamming in an almost robotic manner with almost the same time interval all the time feels quite unlikely. The timings: "Held for"=0.05 and "Time since last kick"=0.03333 are very frequent. One also has to account for that it is not possible to always have the same spamrate in spambattles unless you time the ball perfectly every time (as every haxplayer knows).
So being this fast and yet so precise in timings, interesting. I am only providing some interesting data.

Perhaps it is Hulk that is able to pull this off, maybe one could find similar unique patterns in all players spam? What is further interesting is that Arian seems to be able to handle the exact same rate as Hulk - and the timings is again quite similar. The timings: "Held for"=0.05 and "Time since last kick"=0.03333 are very frequent in this sequence.


Arian

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
07:28:550000------07:28:666667------ 0.11667------5.18333
07:28:700000------07:28:750000 ------0.05------0.03333
07:28:766667------07:28:816667 ------0.05------0.01667
07:28:850000------07:28:883333------ 0.03333------0.03333
07:28:916667------07:29:016667------ 0.1------0.03333
07:29:050000------07:29:133333 ------0.08333------0.03333
07:29:150000------07:29:166667------ 0.01667------0.01667
07:29:200000------07:29:250000------ 0.05------0.03333
07:29:266667------07:29:316667 ------0.05------0.01667
07:29:350000------07:29:366667 ------0.01667------0.03333
07:29:400000------07:29:433333 ------0.03333------0.03333
07:29:466667------07:29:516667------ 0.05------0.03333
07:29:550000------07:29:600000 ------0.05------ 0.03333


Even though the parser lacks abit precision, it is still very interesting data.
Would be interesting to see if the same pattern is in other recs played during the last FM ssn.

[Hulk]

Hey anglo,

Thats a nice program from 2014, There is something called join.me you can screenshare while playing. If some admin is interesting to use it on me or someone of you.

Seeyou.

[juliano]

First of all, of course macro is not OP you can beat it like previous speakers claimed. However it is possible to beat people using doping in sports as well. The point is still that it gives a slight advantage, which is cheat. I don't understand however why people would sell their soul to cheat in a flashgame without any money init, but it is not my business.

That the spam is incredibly fast I think we all can agree on. How would one be able to prove someone is using macro? I can tell you I can spam 1000x/second and nobody here could prove me wrong. What the parser mentioned gives us is unfortunately only the possibility to see 12/13 spams per second. And that is extremely fast spamming - but yes it is possible to spam with that rate even though very few can.

However, to present some interesting data regarding this rec - the data below can be found if parsing the rec. Here we can see several spam sequences with the rate 12-13 spams per second (during whole seconds(!)). The first one being the infamous corner spam (~02:07).


Hulk

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
02:07:016667------02:07:066667 ------ 0.05------ 0.01667
02:07:100000------02:07:166667------0.06667------0.03333
02:07:200000------02:07:250000------ 0.05------0.03333
02:07:266667------02:07:333333------0.06667------0.01667
02:07:383333------02:07:433333------0.05------0.05
02:07:450000------02:07:516667------0.06667------0.01667
02:07:550000------02:07:600000------0.05------0.03333
02:07:633333------02:07:700000------0.06667------0.03333
02:07:733333------02:07:783333------0.05------0.03333
02:07:816667------02:07:883333------0.06667------0.03333
02:07:900000------02:07:950000------0.05------0.01667
02:07:983333------02:08:050000------0.06667------0.03333
02:08:083333------02:08:133333------0.05------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
03:16:033333------03:16:083333------0.05------0.05
03:16:116667------03:16:166667------0.05------0.03333
03:16:216667------03:16:250000 0.03333------0.05
03:16:283333------03:16:333333------0.05------0.03333
03:16:366667------03:16:416667------0.05------0.03333
03:16:450000------03:16:500000------0.05------0.03333
03:16:533333------03:16:583333------0.05------0.03333
03:16:616667------03:16:666667------0.05------0.03333
03:16:683333------03:16:750000------0.06667------0.01667
03:16:766667------03:16:816667 ------0.05------0.01667
03:16:866667------03:16:916667------ 0.05------0.05
03:16:933333------03:17:000000 ------0.06667------0.01667
03:17:033333------03:17:083333 ------0.05------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
03:17:116667------03:17:166667 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:300000------03:17:333333 ------0.03333------0.13333
03:17:400000------03:17:433333 ------0.03333------0.06667
03:17:466667------03:17:516667 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:550000------03:17:616667 ------0.06667------0.03333
03:17:633333------03:17:683333 ------0.05------ 0.01667
03:17:716667------03:17:766667 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:816667------03:17:866667 ------0.05------0.05
03:17:900000------03:17:950000 ------0.05------0.03333
03:17:966667------03:18:000000 ------0.03333------0.01667

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
03:29:066667------03:29:083333------ 0.01667------0.1
03:29:133333------03:29:183333 ------0.05------0.05
03:29:216667------03:29:250000------ 0.03333------0.03333
03:29:300000------03:29:350000 ------0.05------ 0.05
03:29:383333------03:29:416667 ------0.03333------0.03333
03:29:466667------03:29:516667 ------0.05------0.05
03:29:550000------03:29:600000------ 0.05------0.03333
03:29:633333------03:29:700000 ------0.06667------0.03333
03:29:733333------03:29:766667 ------0.03333------0.03333
03:29:800000------03:29:866667 ------0.06667------0.03333
03:29:900000------03:29:933333 ------0.03333------0.03333
03:29:983333------03:30:033333 ------0.05------0.05
03:30:083333------03:30:116667 ------0.03333------0.05

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
05:34:000000------05:34:050000 ------0.05------0.06667
05:34:083333------05:34:133333 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:166667------05:34:216667 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:233333------05:34:383333 ------0.15------0.01667
05:34:400000------05:34:466667 ------0.06667------0.01667
05:34:483333------05:34:550000 ------0.06667------0.01667
05:34:583333------05:34:633333 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:666667------05:34:716667 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:750000------05:34:800000 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:833333------05:34:883333 ------0.05------0.03333
05:34:916667------05:34:966667 ------0.05------0.03333
05:35:016667------05:35:050000 ------0.03333------0.05

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
06:27:800000------06:27:833333 ------0.03333------0.06667
06:27:866667------06:27:900000 ------0.03333------0.03333
06:27:950000------06:27:983333 ------0.03333------0.05
06:28:016667------06:28:066667 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:100000------06:28:150000 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:183333------06:28:233333 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:266667------06:28:316667 ------0.05------ 0.03333
06:28:333333------06:28:400000 ------0.06667------0.01667
06:28:433333------06:28:466667 ------0.03333------0.03333
06:28:483333------06:28:550000 ------0.06667------0.01667
06:28:583333------06:28:633333 ------0.05------0.03333
06:28:666667------06:28:700000 ------0.03333------0.03333
06:28:733333------06:28:766667 ------0.03333------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
07:30:750000------07:30:783333 ------0.03333------1.18333
07:30:816667------07:30:866667 ------0.05------0.03333
07:30:900000------07:30:950000 ------0.05------0.03333
07:30:966667------07:31:016667------ 0.05------0.01667
07:31:050000------07:31:116667 ------0.06667------0.03333
07:31:133333------07:31:183333 ------0.05------0.01667
07:31:216667------07:31:266667------ 0.05------0.03333
07:31:300000------07:31:350000 ------0.05------0.03333
07:31:383333------07:31:433333 ------0.05------0.03333
07:31:466667------07:31:516667 ------0.05------0.03333
07:31:583333------07:31:600000 ------0.01667------0.06667
07:31:633333------07:31:666667 ------0.03333------0.03333

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
10:19:516667------10:19:566667 ------0.05------1.28333
10:19:616667------10:19:650000------ 0.03333------0.05
10:19:683333------10:19:733333------ 0.05------ 0.03333
10:19:766667------10:19:816667 ------0.05------0.03333
10:19:850000------10:19:900000 ------0.05------0.03333
10:19:933333------10:19:966667 ------0.03333------0.03333
10:20:016667------10:20:066667 ------0.05------0.05
10:20:100000------10:20:150000 ------0.05------0.03333
10:20:183333------10:20:233333 ------0.05------0.03333
10:20:283333------10:20:316667 ------0.03333------0.05
10:20:350000------10:20:416667------ 0.06667------0.03333
10:20:433333------10:20:483333 ------0.05------0.01667
10:20:516667------10:20:566667 ------0.05------0.03333


Meaning Hulk actually spams with the same rate several times during the game, not only in the sequence discussed. Maybe he is an incredible spammer. However, what at least strucs me looking at this data is that, sure it is possible to be that fast - but spamming in an almost robotic manner with almost the same time interval all the time feels quite unlikely. The timings: "Held for"=0.05 and "Time since last kick"=0.03333 are very frequent. One also has to account for that it is not possible to always have the same spamrate in spambattles unless you time the ball perfectly every time (as every haxplayer knows).
So being this fast and yet so precise in timings, interesting. I am only providing some interesting data.

Perhaps it is Hulk that is able to pull this off, maybe one could find similar unique patterns in all players spam? What is further interesting is that Arian seems to be able to handle the exact same rate as Hulk - and the timings is again quite similar. The timings: "Held for"=0.05 and "Time since last kick"=0.03333 are very frequent in this sequence.


Arian

Started------------Ended------------Held for------------Time since last kick
07:28:550000------07:28:666667------ 0.11667------5.18333
07:28:700000------07:28:750000 ------0.05------0.03333
07:28:766667------07:28:816667 ------0.05------0.01667
07:28:850000------07:28:883333------ 0.03333------0.03333
07:28:916667------07:29:016667------ 0.1------0.03333
07:29:050000------07:29:133333 ------0.08333------0.03333
07:29:150000------07:29:166667------ 0.01667------0.01667
07:29:200000------07:29:250000------ 0.05------0.03333
07:29:266667------07:29:316667 ------0.05------0.01667
07:29:350000------07:29:366667 ------0.01667------0.03333
07:29:400000------07:29:433333 ------0.03333------0.03333
07:29:466667------07:29:516667------ 0.05------0.03333
07:29:550000------07:29:600000 ------0.05------ 0.03333


Even though the parser lacks abit precision, it is still very interesting data.
Would be interesting to see if the same pattern is in other recs played during the last FM ssn.

u talking about 2 players that playing this game for 6 years, u can also say that csgo pros (that playing for 6-8 years) with amazing reaction time are robots but u can be sure that they arent cheating.

[tim]

This topic is pretty stupid coming from the author knowing that flame hawks and mainly, hulk ahmed arian are known mainly by their spam, they have been playing for years and it would only on this game you foolishly accuse it while everyone can have this spam there is nothing complicated, really think before doing that kind of thing.
tim.

[VENOM i7]

This topic is pretty stupid coming from the author knowing that flame hawks and mainly, hulk ahmed arian are known mainly by their spam, they have been playing for years and it would only on this game you foolishly accuse it while everyone can have this spam there is nothing complicated, really think before doing that kind of thing.
tim.

u try too hard mdr <3

[arianalbania]

Ahmed and Hulk have macros because macrojuana is legalized in holland ..

[Ahmed]

Download macro urself. And u will see the difference between Hulk's spam and real macro ^^. Now shut up and leave this dumb conversation behind.

BTW: http://haxrec.com/132929 ezzzz

[arianalbania]

Download macro urself. And u will see the difference between Hulk's spam and real macro ^^. Now shut up and leave this dumb conversation behind.

BTW: http://haxrec.com/132929 ezzzz

Maybe, but where are you here?
http://fm-haxball.co.uk/community/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=6575

[Ahmed]

Download macro urself. And u will see the difference between Hulk's spam and real macro ^^. Now shut up and leave this dumb conversation behind.

BTW: http://haxrec.com/132929 ezzzz

Maybe, but where are you here?
http://fm-haxball.co.uk/community/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=6575

Ahmed

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Dumb nigger

[arianalbania]

[Ahmed]

0-1 | 2:20 | OG - arianalbania () - http://haxrec.com/129240 Hmmm ??

[arianalbania]

0-1 | 2:20 | OG - arianalbania () - http://haxrec.com/129240 Hmmm ??

http://haxrec.com/126464

FH 6-0 againt your shit team